Should Britain pay other europeans ie: Spanish, the benefits
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Should Britain pay other europeans ie: Spanish, the benefits
http://www.express.co.uk/web/europecrusade
The express and now calling for uk to leave europe.
If a spanish person arrives in the uk, they register for work and immediatley are entitled to benefits, ie ; unemployment, housing and council tax, on the other hand UK residents get nothing for nothing in Spain, so what do you all think ?
Manchester has a fast growing community, and they openly say that it for the benefits they can't recieve at home, plus its easier for them to get cash in hand working in restaurants and dole from Spain for up to 2 years. I went with a spanish friend last week to the job centre, the first thing they asked her was, are you claiming the benefits your entitled too
I don't know how it works for other europeans as I don't know any or go on other non spanish forums.
Maybe UKIP will grow stronger !
The express and now calling for uk to leave europe.
If a spanish person arrives in the uk, they register for work and immediatley are entitled to benefits, ie ; unemployment, housing and council tax, on the other hand UK residents get nothing for nothing in Spain, so what do you all think ?
Manchester has a fast growing community, and they openly say that it for the benefits they can't recieve at home, plus its easier for them to get cash in hand working in restaurants and dole from Spain for up to 2 years. I went with a spanish friend last week to the job centre, the first thing they asked her was, are you claiming the benefits your entitled too
I don't know how it works for other europeans as I don't know any or go on other non spanish forums.
Maybe UKIP will grow stronger !
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This is a difficult and touchy area to comment on, especially when it comes to Benefits. It would be great if all EU countries followed the same guidelines for Benefits, but I think we all know that is not so.
All I want is to be sure of is that if/when I move back to UK I can register for work and be entitled to all the same Benefits from Day1 as an immigrant from another EU country would be. I am not sure if I would be??!
All I want is to be sure of is that if/when I move back to UK I can register for work and be entitled to all the same Benefits from Day1 as an immigrant from another EU country would be. I am not sure if I would be??!
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The problem would be solved if all EU countries had the same system.
Dave
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How many Brits live in Spain full time but still claim UK benefits?
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Quebin, thats not what I was asking about !
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I read a "Spanish working in UK" forum, and they certainly seem up to speed on claiming benefits, they think they've died and gone to heaven. Spanish friend of mine here has just had a baby, so on maternity leave, and she's loving it, getting money from her two employers. She's been here quite a few years, and entitled to every penny, but she still finds it difficult to believe how easy it is to collect so much money.
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I also know a spanish Family that has relocated to the UK from here. and yes .. they are on benefit. It wasnt Immediate but certainly within the month.
They get housing, and unemployment, family credit and child allowance .... generating nearly twice what they were living on before they moved ...and they still have the house out here !
What i don t know is weather Spain are funding it .. or if its from just the UK. He wont say specifically. what he does say however - is that he can put up with the crappy weather for the money he gets !
There's something wrong somewhere !
They get housing, and unemployment, family credit and child allowance .... generating nearly twice what they were living on before they moved ...and they still have the house out here !
What i don t know is weather Spain are funding it .. or if its from just the UK. He wont say specifically. what he does say however - is that he can put up with the crappy weather for the money he gets !
There's something wrong somewhere !
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For info on jobseekeer's allowance being claimed by foreigners and/or by UK nationals living in other EU countries look at
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/international/ben ... ce-in-eea/
The rights and wrongs of the system are certainly up for debate!
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/international/ben ... ce-in-eea/
The rights and wrongs of the system are certainly up for debate!
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To claim, firstly you go and register for work and get a national insurance number, and I am told that Spain does not pay this money back to uk, but does pay for any emergency illnesses dealt with, if people are not registered as living and looking for work in the uk, after so many years of being available for work and the state paying the stamp, I am told they are then entitled to a old age pension, its frightening really, but who can blame them !
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No one can blame them any more that the folk in Britain who make a good living out of claiming benefits can be chastised.If there are handouts going it is now human nature to take what you can. he exception being the generation currently in their 80's who still have a mindset of not wanting to be a bother and keeping their business private and not claiming stuff they are entitled to.Julie wrote:To claim, firstly you go and register for work and get a national insurance number, and I am told that Spain does not pay this money back to uk, but does pay for any emergency illnesses dealt with, if people are not registered as living and looking for work in the uk, after so many years of being available for work and the state paying the stamp, I am told they are then entitled to a old age pension, its frightening really, but who can blame them !
On the same tack. What would a person of independent means (like an early retirement private pension) living in Spain be entitled to if they went and signed on looking for work. State Pension contributions, health as well as any hard cash?
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To get maternity leave you would logically have to be working,so a British woman living and working in Spain would also get maternity leave and maybe more because a woman in Spain can take a year off,unpaid, as well and be able to walk back into the same job.frank wrote:I read a "Spanish working in UK" forum, and they certainly seem up to speed on claiming benefits, they think they've died and gone to heaven. Spanish friend of mine here has just had a baby, so on maternity leave, and she's loving it, getting money from her two employers. She's been here quite a few years, and entitled to every penny, but she still finds it difficult to believe how easy it is to collect so much money.
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I know nothing about it, apart from what she has told me, however this site says,markwilding wrote:To get maternity leave you would logically have to be working,so a British woman living and working in Spain would also get maternity leave and maybe more because a woman in Spain can take a year off,unpaid, as well and be able to walk back into the same job.frank wrote:I read a "Spanish working in UK" forum, and they certainly seem up to speed on claiming benefits, they think they've died and gone to heaven. Spanish friend of mine here has just had a baby, so on maternity leave, and she's loving it, getting money from her two employers. She's been here quite a few years, and entitled to every penny, but she still finds it difficult to believe how easy it is to collect so much money.
So the Spanish equivalent for her (first child) would seem to be 16 weeks, that's a big difference to the nine months she tells me she is getting. In fact she is going back to work after 6 months, they have to keep the job open,and her husband is having the remaining 3 months. As I understand it, all that is paid. She is delighted with the setup, and assures me it far exceeds what she would get in Spain, but what does she know?Maternity & Paternity Law
Maternity leave in Spain lasts 16 weeks for your first child with 2 additional weeks per subsequent child. These 16 weeks can be taken as full days or part days and the mother can choose when to take them, either before or after the birth but a minimum of 6 weeks must be taken after the birth. In this way, it is possible for the mother to take leave from up to 10 weeks prior to giving birth.
http://www.mybabyspain.com/maternity-rights-spain.php
Regards, Frank
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I think I may have wandered into Britain.com
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My wife fulfills all the above except the private ( any type of ) pension. She gets healthcare that's it. If there is anything else ,they won't tell you , you have to request it. Even if you are a spaniard !!olive wrote:
On the same tack. What would a person of independent means (like an early retirement private pension) living in Spain be entitled to if they went and signed on looking for work. State Pension contributions, health as well as any hard cash?
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I don't usually bother reading these anti European propaganda pieces from the right rags but I read this one and it didn't let me down
Britain's help to Ireland didn't have anything to do with the Euro,more to do with the fact that we are strong trading partners and even if the EU didn't exist, we would have similar pacts with them.
And why do the papers lump together the European court of Human rights and the EU? They are separate bodies.
The Euro isn't the cause of the current crisis, If it were, why is Britain in a double dip recession and America has suffered badly too
Most of it is pure speculation and incorrect, How can the writer know how things would have gone if we were out of the EU? and Britain certainly wasn't a economic powerhouse when we joined and was already in decline with regard to being a world power. Nevertheless, even with this decline it hasn't meant that Britain's economy hasn't grown and that we are worse off whereas in fact during the years of EU membership the standard of living has risen sharply for most of us and we live much better than our great grandparents, who lived through the years of Britain's world dominance .
I for one prefer a world where the spoils are shared between everybody and not for the exploitation of the weaker countries for the benefit of the few.
Britain's help to Ireland didn't have anything to do with the Euro,more to do with the fact that we are strong trading partners and even if the EU didn't exist, we would have similar pacts with them.
And why do the papers lump together the European court of Human rights and the EU? They are separate bodies.
The Euro isn't the cause of the current crisis, If it were, why is Britain in a double dip recession and America has suffered badly too
Most of it is pure speculation and incorrect, How can the writer know how things would have gone if we were out of the EU? and Britain certainly wasn't a economic powerhouse when we joined and was already in decline with regard to being a world power. Nevertheless, even with this decline it hasn't meant that Britain's economy hasn't grown and that we are worse off whereas in fact during the years of EU membership the standard of living has risen sharply for most of us and we live much better than our great grandparents, who lived through the years of Britain's world dominance .
I for one prefer a world where the spoils are shared between everybody and not for the exploitation of the weaker countries for the benefit of the few.
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Mark - what you are expounding is comunism or a variant on it ... that has been shown not to work. You only have to look at the mess Russia got itself into.
You can only have a Socialist ethos IF there is sufficient funds availibale - you can not give what you dont have ! As Greece is now finding
Capitalism will always win.
You can only have a Socialist ethos IF there is sufficient funds availibale - you can not give what you dont have ! As Greece is now finding
Capitalism will always win.
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If the UK continue to give as they do to all and sundry, we will be bankrupt too
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Where have you been? Britain is bankrupt. Like other European countries it cannot pay off its massive debts. Even under Osbornes austerity the debt has increased hugely since the Condems took office, a fact not appreciated by many folk.Julie wrote:If the UK continue to give as they do to all and sundry, we will be bankrupt too
At least IDS is doing a reasonable job of trying to reduce the amount of benefits paid out.
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Yes, which means the only option to reduce the debt is my system. As from next monday all benefits cease;except pensions which will be doubled.( except for people who never worked in their lives )olive wrote:Where have you been? Britain is bankrupt. Like other European countries it cannot pay off its massive debts. Even under Osbornes austerity the debt has increased hugely since the Condems took office, a fact not appreciated by many folk.Julie wrote:If the UK continue to give as they do to all and sundry, we will be bankrupt too
At least IDS is doing a reasonable job of trying to reduce the amount of benefits paid out.
All shares & divis taken are taxed at source . No money can be taken without a flat rate tax . all non-doms pay tax. anyone who doesn't like it leaves ......with only the clothes they stand up in , along with family ;all assets revert to state for sale to highest bidder. All illegals deported .
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There, that should reduce the burden a bit.
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I can't say I have noticed any austerity measures in the uk, the benefit system is too good !
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