BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

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BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby patricia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:45 am

Just asking for a friend. They had a meeting the other day and owners have been told that they will now be responsible for the upkeep and insurance of the planters on the outside wall of their flats. Is this possible bearing in mind it has always been the responsibility of the community!

She has a description of what she owns ie the flat and the balcony but it does not include the planter on the outside of the wall!
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Postby Manchesteral » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:25 pm

I don't know about the legal implications of this but my next door neighbour had a number of planters on the ledge outside his window (we are 4 floors up) they were blown off one day in a strong wind and crashed to the ground narrowly missing a couple of people, the potential danger was frightening, he was told by the building administrator that they would have to be insured in future !!

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Postby patricia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:36 pm

Well for the 25 years that they have had the planters and the community have repaired them and also planted flowers in them, but now they are saying that the owner of the flats are responsible now for the planters!

When my friend put plants in hers the community pulled them out and planted their own!

Not sure what the law is on this.
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Postby peteroldracer » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:24 pm

I would have thought that it would not be a law, but a decision by the urbanisation committee, which surely all owners would have voted on?
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby GerryinCajiz » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:23 pm

The simplest solution to resolve the problem would be to remove the planters. No planter, no problem and nothing to insure but household insurance may well cover this if declared.
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Postby patricia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:38 pm

GerryinCajiz wrote:The simplest solution to resolve the problem would be to remove the planters. No planter, no problem and nothing to insure but household insurance may well cover this if declared.


Well it is not clear who owns it. If she removes it and then they say it belongs to the community again she will have to put it back.

In the UK the outside of flats are the responsibility of the freeholders, not the leaseholders. I do not know what the law is in Spain, I would imagine the same as it is the community who paint the outside.
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby gerryh » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:48 pm

patricia wrote:[
Well it is not clear who owns it. If she removes it and then they say it belongs to the community again she will have to put it back.

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Then removing it should answer the question.
If it belongs to the community then they are responsible for it's upkeep and insurance.
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Postby peteroldracer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:53 pm

Time to talk to el presidente!
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Postby patricia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:06 pm

gerryh wrote:
patricia wrote:[
Well it is not clear who owns it. If she removes it and then they say it belongs to the community again she will have to put it back.

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Then removing it should answer the question.
If it belongs to the community then they are responsible for it's upkeep and insurance.
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Yes but they are saying they are now not the owners and that the leaseholder/commonholder is responsible for the upkeep and insurance. That has just been sent out in the minutes of the meeting they had.

I would have thought the community is responsible for their upkeep and insurance, but the point is we dont know or nor it seems does El Presidente!
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Postby GerryinCajiz » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:15 pm

Hope they don't wait until it lands on someone's head before they fully address the problem.
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Postby spanish_lad » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:56 pm

woah.. 2 gerrys .. and they both live in Cajiz ? :wtf:
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby gerryh » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:41 pm

Neither of us actually live in Cajiz.
It's the nearest village to where either of us live.
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby Parilla » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:40 am

Patricia, when you say "planters", do you mean a fixed part of the fabric of the building, or separate moveable containers like plant pots ?

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Postby patricia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:50 am

Hello Parilla, they are fixed to the outside wall!
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Postby GerryinCajiz » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:12 pm

gerryh wrote:Neither of us actually live in Cajiz.
It's the nearest village to where either of us live.
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby gerryh » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:30 pm

Hi Gerry
You joined A.com in 2014, I joined in 2008 so I am more original than you. :angel: :thumbup: :lol: :twisted:
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Postby patricia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:18 pm

Can we stay on track. I keep thinking some one offered some information instead I am reading who joined first or last, nothing to do with planters. Please set up your own thread as to who is who. :thumbup:
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Re: BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTER

Postby Pamela1 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:12 pm

Who has been paying for the upkeep and insurance for the planters? I am assuming it came out of the community charges, i have no experience of community living so I'm just guessing..anyway if the cost of the upkeep of the planters has been coming out of the community charges then the residents should be expecting to pay a little less but i don't suppose it works like that..I think if your friend isn't happy about being made responsible for the planter then she should request they remove it..It does however seem quite strange that after all this time that they are now making residents responsible, perhaps the residents should all get together and ask for an explanation.


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