Thanks you very much for taking the trouble to reply.
It helps a great deal.
How to order vegetarian food in restaurants
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spanish hopes
frank
but the difference between me and you frank are far beyond your compression....
Here is a list of vocabulary that may be useful to you.
Presuntuoso
Soberbia
Hidalgo
Engreído
Fanfarrón
Fantoche
Enojoso
Benevlente
Gentil
Sensatez
You cant teach and old dog new tricks....The difference between me and Silver, is that I would want to know what mistakes I had made, and to learn from them
but the difference between me and you frank are far beyond your compression....Here is a list of vocabulary that may be useful to you.
Presuntuoso
Soberbia
Hidalgo
Engreído
Fanfarrón
Fantoche
Enojoso
Benevlente
Gentil
Sensatez
No muerdes la mano que te da de comer.
No, its not recognised by the University of Salamanca on line dictionary, but thats just a book, we know now that this language is useless in real life.Benevlente
This is obviously a word used in proper 'street' talk which Frank couldn't possibly understand! Only a handful of people know how to speak it, lucky for us that Silver is one of them.
Here you are Silver, to save you googling i've copied all the relevant sayings about dogs; bark worse than bite, teaching old dog new tricks etc etc etc. Couldn't find any caniche ones though for spanishnomates.
A carne dura, diente de perro.
A otro perro más hambriao, con ese hueso pelao.
A perro flaco todo se le vuelven pulgas.
A perro que no conozcas, nunca le espantes las moscas.
A perro viejo, no hay quien le enseñe trucos nuevos.
Cuanto más se conoce a los hombres, más se admira a los perros.
Al pan se arrima el perro.
Al perro más desmedrado dan el mejor bocado.
Al perro que es traicionero, no le vuelvas el trasero.
Al perro y al gato no les pongas en el mismo plato.
Al perro, échale un hueso, y se amansará con eso.
Amigo y de fiel empeño es el perro... con su dueño.
Blanco o negro, el perro siempre es perro.
Cada perro con su hueso.
Cojera de perro y lágrimas de mujer, no son de creer.
Como el perro de muchas bodas, que en ninguna come por comer en todas.
Compañía de dos, mi perro y yo.
Con rabia, el perro, muerde a su dueño.
Confesar a monjas, espulgar a perros y predicar a niños, tiempo perdido.
Cuando un perro se ahoga, todos le dan de beber.
Dame pan y llámame perro.
De donde no hay pan hasta los perros se van.
El perro del hortelano, que ni come ni deja comer.
El perro hambriento no teme al león
El perro que mucho lame, chupa sangre
El perro que no es de raza, si no tiene hambre no caza.
El perro viejo, si ladra, da consejo.
El perro y el niño, donde le dan cariño.
El que da pan a perro ajeno, pierde el pan, pierde el perro y la amistad de su dueño.
El que se acuesta con perros, amanece con pulgas
En febrero busca la sombra el perro, pero a últimos, no a primeros.
En la noche de San Juan, no quedan en casa ni los perros.
Entre perros y gatos lamen todos los platos.
Ese es el mismo perro con otro collar.
La necesidad tiene cara de perro.
Mal se caza con perros desganados.
Más hace el lobo callando que el perro ladrando.
Ni tengo padre, ni madre, ni perro que me ladre.
No es sólo el hombre el que mea a la pared, porque el perro mea también.
No tengo gato, ni perro, ni velas en ese entierro.
Nunca pares en donde hay perros flacos
Para otro perro ese hueso, tan descarnado y tan tieso.
Perro en barbecho ladra sin provecho.
Perro ladrador poco mordedor.
Perro que anda, hueso encuentra
Perro que mucho ladra, poco muerde pero bien guarda
Perros y gatos, distintos platos.
Por un perro que maté, mataperros me llamaron.
Quien con los perros se trata, aprende hasta alzar la pata.
Si hay trato, amigos pueden pueden ser el perro y el gato.
Citas y expresiones.
El perro es el mejor amigo del hombre
Fuera del perro, el libro es el mejor amigo del hombre. Dentro del perro, quizá esté muy oscuro para leer. (Groucho Marx)
Más vale ceder el paso a un perro que dejarse morder por él. (Abraham Lincoln)
Hay tres amigos fieles, una esposa anciana, un perro viejo y dinero contante y sonante. (Benjamin Franklin)
Las historias están llenas de ejemplos de perros fieles que de amigos fieles. (Alexander Pope)
Recogéis a un perro que anda muerto de hambre, lo engordas y no os morderá. Esa es la diferencia más notable entre un perro y un hombre. (Mark Twain)
El remordimiento es como la mordedura de un perro en una piedra: una tontería. (Nietzsche)
A carne dura, diente de perro.
A otro perro más hambriao, con ese hueso pelao.
A perro flaco todo se le vuelven pulgas.
A perro que no conozcas, nunca le espantes las moscas.
A perro viejo, no hay quien le enseñe trucos nuevos.
Cuanto más se conoce a los hombres, más se admira a los perros.
Al pan se arrima el perro.
Al perro más desmedrado dan el mejor bocado.
Al perro que es traicionero, no le vuelvas el trasero.
Al perro y al gato no les pongas en el mismo plato.
Al perro, échale un hueso, y se amansará con eso.
Amigo y de fiel empeño es el perro... con su dueño.
Blanco o negro, el perro siempre es perro.
Cada perro con su hueso.
Cojera de perro y lágrimas de mujer, no son de creer.
Como el perro de muchas bodas, que en ninguna come por comer en todas.
Compañía de dos, mi perro y yo.
Con rabia, el perro, muerde a su dueño.
Confesar a monjas, espulgar a perros y predicar a niños, tiempo perdido.
Cuando un perro se ahoga, todos le dan de beber.
Dame pan y llámame perro.
De donde no hay pan hasta los perros se van.
El perro del hortelano, que ni come ni deja comer.
El perro hambriento no teme al león
El perro que mucho lame, chupa sangre
El perro que no es de raza, si no tiene hambre no caza.
El perro viejo, si ladra, da consejo.
El perro y el niño, donde le dan cariño.
El que da pan a perro ajeno, pierde el pan, pierde el perro y la amistad de su dueño.
El que se acuesta con perros, amanece con pulgas
En febrero busca la sombra el perro, pero a últimos, no a primeros.
En la noche de San Juan, no quedan en casa ni los perros.
Entre perros y gatos lamen todos los platos.
Ese es el mismo perro con otro collar.
La necesidad tiene cara de perro.
Mal se caza con perros desganados.
Más hace el lobo callando que el perro ladrando.
Ni tengo padre, ni madre, ni perro que me ladre.
No es sólo el hombre el que mea a la pared, porque el perro mea también.
No tengo gato, ni perro, ni velas en ese entierro.
Nunca pares en donde hay perros flacos
Para otro perro ese hueso, tan descarnado y tan tieso.
Perro en barbecho ladra sin provecho.
Perro ladrador poco mordedor.
Perro que anda, hueso encuentra
Perro que mucho ladra, poco muerde pero bien guarda
Perros y gatos, distintos platos.
Por un perro que maté, mataperros me llamaron.
Quien con los perros se trata, aprende hasta alzar la pata.
Si hay trato, amigos pueden pueden ser el perro y el gato.
Citas y expresiones.
El perro es el mejor amigo del hombre
Fuera del perro, el libro es el mejor amigo del hombre. Dentro del perro, quizá esté muy oscuro para leer. (Groucho Marx)
Más vale ceder el paso a un perro que dejarse morder por él. (Abraham Lincoln)
Hay tres amigos fieles, una esposa anciana, un perro viejo y dinero contante y sonante. (Benjamin Franklin)
Las historias están llenas de ejemplos de perros fieles que de amigos fieles. (Alexander Pope)
Recogéis a un perro que anda muerto de hambre, lo engordas y no os morderá. Esa es la diferencia más notable entre un perro y un hombre. (Mark Twain)
El remordimiento es como la mordedura de un perro en una piedra: una tontería. (Nietzsche)
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if i went into a resturant around here i´m sure theres alot more things that i could have apart from omlettes and chips?? there must be more interesting options avaliable ?
for example, a question to the vegetarians of you among us, what do you eat in the uk every day ? what do you eat when you go out to a resturant in the uk??
(which i assume that you are all referring to, rather than these "typical" spanish places.. my gosh it must be somewhere with silver cutlery and proper napkins i couldn´t bear to possibly eat anywhere comman
you have no idea what you are missing out on, by not trying the smaller spanish resturants and places that are full instead of the posh ones only found listed on websites. i bet, in atempting to locate any one of the resurants listed on that website, you´ll have to drive past at least 20 "typical" spanish places first...
for example, a question to the vegetarians of you among us, what do you eat in the uk every day ? what do you eat when you go out to a resturant in the uk??
(which i assume that you are all referring to, rather than these "typical" spanish places.. my gosh it must be somewhere with silver cutlery and proper napkins i couldn´t bear to possibly eat anywhere comman
you have no idea what you are missing out on, by not trying the smaller spanish resturants and places that are full instead of the posh ones only found listed on websites. i bet, in atempting to locate any one of the resurants listed on that website, you´ll have to drive past at least 20 "typical" spanish places first...
Alhaurin el Grande since 99, working at the airport since 2011.
I've tried plenty of small Spanish places and the usual alternative to tortilla & chips is a salad, if you can persuade them to leave the tuna off One offered to make something special for me, a bean soup from the north, basque territory I think. All was well till I found a tiny piece of meat in it, seems he thought meat stock didn't count 
It really is an uphill struggle. My local restaurant (Spanish) made me an excellent pasta dish on New Years Eve but has since reverted to their version of Heinz spaghetti so it's back to the tortillas
What I find particularly upsetting is the tapas bars. When we were in Sevilla there were so many good tapas to choose from but in the small pueblos they only offer the same old choices, bits of fried meat or small fish. Even on the rare occasion you see patatas bravas offered when it arrives its just chips or fried potatoes with a sauce on, not the real thing
But to be fair to the Spanish the Brit owned restaurants are just as bad, worse really cos they should know better. The best you can get in most of them is a c***py vegetable lasagna
One offered to make something special for me, a bean soup from the north, basque territory I think. All was well till I found a tiny piece of meat in it, seems he thought meat stock didn't count It really is an uphill struggle. My local restaurant (Spanish) made me an excellent pasta dish on New Years Eve but has since reverted to their version of Heinz spaghetti so it's back to the tortillas
What I find particularly upsetting is the tapas bars. When we were in Sevilla there were so many good tapas to choose from but in the small pueblos they only offer the same old choices, bits of fried meat or small fish. Even on the rare occasion you see patatas bravas offered when it arrives its just chips or fried potatoes with a sauce on, not the real thing
But to be fair to the Spanish the Brit owned restaurants are just as bad, worse really cos they should know better. The best you can get in most of them is a c***py vegetable lasagna
No, because that's literaly what you will get!
A new Spanish bar in our village told my husband they could do something if we ordered in advance. When we did he spoke to a different person and in trying to explain 'vegetarian' that's what my husband said - 'solo verduras'. What was served was a plate of potatoes and vegetables that had obviously been cooked in the same pot, I suspect everything in at the same time & boil till the potatoes are cooked from the soggy gray/greenish mess on the plate
Unless a bar or restaurant already caters for vegetarians then it's hopeless. Maybe if we could hand them a recipe with detailed instructions then they might be able to make it but chances are they would just be offended
A new Spanish bar in our village told my husband they could do something if we ordered in advance. When we did he spoke to a different person and in trying to explain 'vegetarian' that's what my husband said - 'solo verduras'. What was served was a plate of potatoes and vegetables that had obviously been cooked in the same pot, I suspect everything in at the same time & boil till the potatoes are cooked from the soggy gray/greenish mess on the plate
Unless a bar or restaurant already caters for vegetarians then it's hopeless. Maybe if we could hand them a recipe with detailed instructions then they might be able to make it but chances are they would just be offended
Most of these village bars have a kitchen staff of one - often a local lady churning out dishes at very economic prices.Maybe if we could hand them a recipe with detailed instructions then they might be able to make it but chances are they would just be offended
Thats why the menu del dia is good value - you get a choice of three platos max - she only has so many rings on the oven you know!
To go in there demanding a vegetarian dish would I think be unreasonable, and would constitute just mucking her about.
Maybe in a big city you might have more luck with restaurants catering for specialist tastes such as yours.
On this page you will find a list of some of the veggie restaurants in Spain.http://www.energycrom.com/enlaces_restaurantes.htm
... vegetarians are in minority here so its not "normal" for any restaurant to cater for them.. but as I have mentioned many times there are many Spanish non meat/fish dishes... order spanish omlet, pimientos fritos, berejenas con miel, pisto, espinacas en bechamel, minestra de verduras, asparagus, gaspacho, coliflor rebozado, ensalda de pimientos con cebolla, to mention a few ..Alternatively try a restaurant more.. up market..
... vegetarians are in minority here so its not "normal" for any restaurant to cater for them.. but as I have mentioned many times there are many Spanish non meat/fish dishes... order spanish omlet, pimientos fritos, berejenas con miel, pisto, espinacas en bechamel, minestra de verduras, asparagus, gaspacho, coliflor rebozado, ensalda de pimientos con cebolla, to mention a few ..Alternatively try a restaurant more.. up market..
No muerdes la mano que te da de comer.
Arroz a la cubana..this is a non meat/fish dish with rice tomate frito and fried egg and banana..recon any restaurant could dih up that.
I thought this might interest some..
La palabra vegetariano, no proviene de vegetal. Etimológicamente, su origen es la palabra latina “vegetare”, que significa “avivar, animar”. Cuando los romanos utilizaban la expresión “homo vegetus” se referían a una persona vigorosa, sana de cuerpo y alma.
It seem that the word vegetariano does not come from veg..its origin is from latin "vegetare" which means something like intensify, liven up. when the romans used the expression "homo vegetus" is was to refer to someone vigorous, body and mind sane.
I thought this might interest some..
La palabra vegetariano, no proviene de vegetal. Etimológicamente, su origen es la palabra latina “vegetare”, que significa “avivar, animar”. Cuando los romanos utilizaban la expresión “homo vegetus” se referían a una persona vigorosa, sana de cuerpo y alma.
It seem that the word vegetariano does not come from veg..its origin is from latin "vegetare" which means something like intensify, liven up. when the romans used the expression "homo vegetus" is was to refer to someone vigorous, body and mind sane.
No muerdes la mano que te da de comer.
kevin77 wrote:
Most of these village bars have a kitchen staff of one - often a local lady churning out dishes at very economic prices.
Thats why the menu del dia is good value - you get a choice of three platos max - she only has so many rings on the oven you know!
To go in there demanding a vegetarian dish would I think be unreasonable, and would constitute just mucking her about.
Maybe in a big city you might have more luck with restaurants catering for specialist tastes such as yours.
We didn't demand, we asked if it was possible and we were told yes but can you give us 24 hours notice.
We gave 48 hrs notice as I thought 2 days was more reasonable as they were doing something special!
We also went on a Saturday when they don't have a menu del dia and a larger menu is offered at a higher price.
I don't think it was unreasonable for them to have something pre-prepared given 48 hours notice especially since they have downsized to a village bar/restaurant from a hotel in Blanes so are experienced caterers.
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