BBC iPLAYER

[firsttango]

Nothing appears to have changed yet, just working as per normal....anyone experienced anything different?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37226030

[costakid]

I watched the news this morning and they the new rules come into effect today.

[markwilding]

Catch up programmes now ask if you have a licence

[firsttango]

Catch up programmes now ask if you have a licence

On what device?? Not asked me but only tried Macbook Pro so far and nothing has changed.

[gerryh]

It asks me if I have a TV licence or not on the iPlayer app on my LG smart TV , my NowTV box and on my Windows PC.
Cheers
Gerry

[chrissiehope]

So do you just say 'Yes' and they don't ask you to 'prove' it in any way ?

[satandpcguy]

No changes - kind of as expected really.
The "sign in" BBCid on the page is to personalise your BBC content.

"A BBC source said: “There are no plans for people to enter their licence details into BBC iPlayer at present because TV Licensing has a range of enforcement techniques they’ll continue to use. We’ll look at how effective these are before considering whether an extra verification system is required.”

Previous reports that the BBC would begin snooping on Wi-Fi connections to check whether people are using iPlayer are understood to be wide of the mark. However, neither the BBC nor TV Licensing will reveal details of how they plan to detect lawbreakers."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... cy-studies

[gerryh]

So do you just say 'Yes' and they don't ask you to 'prove' it in any way ?

Correct, just click the "I have a TV licence" box and that's it.
Cheers
Gerry

[markwilding]

It's quite simple to detect if an address doesn't have a licence by checking their database and then knock on the doors of those who don't.
These days they will work on the premise that everyone has some way of watching TV so wouldn't even need to ask shops to supply the name and address of everyone who buys a gadget as they did in the past with TVs

[costakid]

I can't see them knocking on Gerrys door in Cajiz. If they find him up there they deserve to be paid. HA HA.

[markwilding]

I doubt if their database extends that far

[Miro]

It asks me if I have a TV licence or not on the iPlayer app on my LG smart TV , my NowTV box and on my Windows PC.
Cheers
Gerry

Not asking me on my NowTV box. Must be 'cos you're in Cajiz - a known hotbed of licence fee avoiders perhaps?

[firsttango]

Not asked for anything at all this morning on either Nowtv box or laptop.

[markwilding]

The problem for expats wkll be if we using the Iplayer in the UK. Imagine being on a train and the tele licencing people do a spot check.

[firsttango]

I think unless they had a warrant you could simply ignore them

[GerryinCajiz]

It asks me if I have a TV licence or not on the iPlayer app on my LG smart TV , my NowTV box and on my Windows PC.
Cheers
Gerry

Not asking me on my NowTV box. Must be 'cos you're in Cajiz - a known hotbed of licence fee avoiders perhaps?

Asked me today on my Now TV box and on Windows 10, must be because I am in a known hotspot!

[Miro]

The detector van arrived in Torremolinos last night - driver said some bloke in Cajiz sent them this way

Interesting point Mark made about expats (or any foreign visitors to the UK for that matter) watching iPlayer on a train. Although (currently) possible for anyone in the UK to watch it, could a foreign visitor be told to stop watching, or even be issued a fine, because they don't have a licence?? What about a tourist on a campsite? Does the campsite have to have a licence in case anybody tunes in whilst staying there?

[satandpcguy]

could a foreign visitor be told to stop watching, or even be issued a fine, because they don't have a licence??

Yes. In theory. There are no provisions for tourists in the licence fee documentation that i can see.

Does the campsite have to have a licence in case anybody tunes in whilst staying there?

No.
Caravans are covered by the "home" licence...as long as there is no one watching at the home, when the tv in the caravan is being used. How the hell they can tell that tvs in two locations on one licence are being used at the same time, unless thye follow you when you go off in your caravan, i have no idea.

[satandpcguy]

could a foreign visitor be told to stop watching, or even be issued a fine, because they don't have a licence??

Yes. In theory.
Although there are no provisions for tourists in the licence fee documentation that i can see, they should be covered by the hotel or guest house etc that they are staying in, as long as they are using a device not attached to the mains power supply....

Does the campsite have to have a licence in case anybody tunes in whilst staying there?

No.
Caravans are covered by the "home" licence...as long as there is no one watching at the home, when the tv in the caravan is being used. How the hell they can tell that tvs in two locations on one licence are being used at the same time, unless thye follow you when you go off in your caravan, i have no idea.

[firsttango]

The BBC aren't going to even bother enforcing the new law at present, merely write to households that don't have a licence pointing out the new changes. And they certainly won't be able to look at your internet data usage...all seems a wishy washy approach to me.