Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

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Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:42 pm

Am I insane to even consider it ? Its a LHD currently on UK plates and has 80,000 miles. What would be import duty roughly ? The only reason I would consder it is that I have an E30 convertible here in Ireland and love it to bits.... so it would be nice to have a "classic" in the sun as well.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby Enrique » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:51 pm

Hi scotty,
Don't even think about it.......Just do it 8)
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:11 pm

Cost V hassle and import duty...................

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby Enrique » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:47 pm

Hi scotty,
Take the info to your friendly Gestor and he will be able to give you a price. Its got a good few years on it, so the "scaled" tax will be low, there is a previous post listing the rates, but alas I'm having an off day and haven't found it yet . :oops:

Not so bad day after all...found it :lol:

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Hasta 1 año …….…..…..….…..................…. 100%
Más de 1 año, hasta 2 …….....…….............…..84
Más de 2 años, hasta 3 …….....…..............…. 67
Más de 3 años, hasta 4 …….....…..............…. 56
Más de 4 años, hasta 5 …….....…..............…. 47
Más de 5 años, hasta 6 …….....…..............…. 39
Más de 6 años, hasta 7 …….....…..............…. 34
Más de 7 años, hasta 8 …….....…..............…. 28
Más de 8 años, hasta 9 …….....…..............…. 24
Más de 9 años, hasta 10 …….....…..............… 19
Más de 10 años, hasta 11 ….…......…..........… 17
Más de 11 años, hasta 12 ….…......…..........… 13
Más de 12 años ...............….................… 10
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby spanish_lad » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:32 pm

thats the old way.

that would of been right enrique - take the original "book price" (their spanish book - our cherokee 42k!) apply the multiplyer as in the above table depending on the age of the vehicle and take a % of that depending on engine size - 0-1600cc was 7%, 1600+ was 12%.

ie our jeep - (10% (its a 92) of 42,000) is 4200, and then 12% of that (its a 4L) is 304 euros. bargin.


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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby El Cid » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:40 pm

spanish_lad wrote:
theres a new system now ;)
The system is still much the same - all that has changed is that it is now based on CO2 emissions.

CO2 emission of less than 120g/Km = 0% of the vehicle value

CO2 emission of between 120-160 g/Km = 4.75% of the vehicle value

CO2 emission of between 160-200g/Km = 9.75% of the vehicle value

CO2 emission of more than 200g/Km = 14.75% of the vehicle value

With a car that old it may be difficult to establish the emission figure but even if you take the worse case, 14.75% of 10% of the value (max 20k) you end up with a pretty small figure for the tax - less than €300.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:53 pm

Excellent information guys, thank you. It gets better. The vendor sent me an email dropping the price to £1000 sterling. Its a 325i convertible in lhd and only 80k miles on it :D . This is looking like a good deal. Keep the comments coming please.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby El Cid » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:35 am

Further to my last post, a 1991 325i cabrio is valued at 21100 on the official list so the tax will be based on 10% of that figure. Sometimes a good gestor can negotiate an even lower value.

Since it will be impossible to get the emission data for such an old car, I assume that, as in the UK, they will use the old calculation based on engine size, so it will be 12%.

I make that €253 or less.

Nice car for a grand!

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:28 am

Thanks Cid. i really appreciate the input. It is a lovely car for the money, thats why I'm interested. Even if it lasts (engine wise) 18 months then I will have had my moneys worth. My E30 in Ireland has only 27,000 miles on it. Its a real garage queen and only gets out on dry sunny days (yesterday :lol: ).
I like the idea of tipping down to the shops in an E30........ and maybe joining a marbella based classic car club. (Mid life crisis & living the dream).

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby Enrique » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:49 am

Hi scotty,
Its only done 80,000 miles ,for a BMW that's just run in 8)
I would expect 150-200k miles before you need to do anything , epecially if its had full BMW service history.
The headlights are they Ireland spec :?: will need to change if they are, although some models can be changed within the units. 8)
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby mhic » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:53 am

Is there a list for tax on bikes anybody. I'm being quoted over 900€ to get a 1992 BMW registered over here and I'd like to know how much of that is tax.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby El Cid » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:15 am

They seem to base the value purely on the engine size.

These are the values and I assume the depreciation tables apply so you would just take 10% of the value below.

As with cars, the tax is emission based but with an old bike I assume it will be 14.75% at worst.

Hasta 50 c.c. …………………………………. 600
De 50,01 a 75 c.c. ……………. 750
De 75,01 a 125 c.c. ……………. 1.100
De 125,01 a 150 c.c. …………….. 1.200
De 150,01 a 200 c.c. …………….. 1.300
De 200,01 a 250 c.c. ……………… 1.500
De 250,01 a 350 c.c. ……………… 2.200
De 350,01 a 450 c.c. ……………… 2.700
De 450,01 a 550 c.c. ……………… 3.000
De 550,01 a 750 c.c. ……………… 5.000
De 750,01 a 1.000 c.c. ………………. 7.500
De 1.000,01 a 1.200 c.c. ……………… 9.500
De 1.200,01 c.c. y superior cilindrada ……… 12.000

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby mhic » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:42 am

Thanks Sid and sorry for jumping in on your thread Scotty.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:32 am

mhic wrote:Thanks Sid and sorry for jumping in on your thread Scotty.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby spanish_lad » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:58 pm

scotty wrote:Excellent information guys, thank you. It gets better. The vendor sent me an email dropping the price to £1000 sterling. Its a 325i convertible in lhd and only 80k miles on it :D . This is looking like a good deal. Keep the comments coming please.

is it in spain already ?? ive got an ... idea... of which car this might be ;)

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby spanish_lad » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:02 pm

oh, and its badged as an M... but think its "only" a 325i - better for insurance.
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby Enrique » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:05 pm

Hi SL,
A bit early that one "G" reg Aug '89 - Jul '90 ?
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby spanish_lad » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:23 pm

yeah i forgot that bit, maybe its not that one then. if its 1k without having to pay to get it here that would be better tho :D lol
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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby Devils Advocate » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:29 pm

One point. Make sure it's got its original wheel/tyre sizes and not larger alloys or something. They are very keen on this when testing.

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Re: Importing a 1991 BMW convertible.....

Postby scotty » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:35 pm

Spanish Lad....... Is that one for sale & in spain ? On the costa del sin ? :lol: . If you have details can you pm me or post here please.


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