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Deceased Land Rover THE RESULTS SHOW

Postby Unicorn » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:18 pm

My car has just died. All the lights come on and it is not the battery, but it will not turn over at all.

Anyone have any idea what it may be?

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby gerryh » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:35 pm

The starter solenoid faulty?
Ignition switch faulty?
Wiring from ignition switch to solenoid?

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby olive » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:46 pm

do you get a dull click when you turn ignition switch?

My advice always is to join a forum for your vehicle. Lots of folk out there with a wealth of knowledge on older vehicles and may even have a part if needed.

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Enrique » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:59 pm

Hi Unicorn,
" All the lights come on and it is not the battery,".............what lights, if its the dash they don't need much power, are the Headlights on main beam bright :?:

"do you get a dull click when you turn ignition switch"........... and do the dash lights dim :?:
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby costakid » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:37 pm

auto or manual, if auto it could be the switch on the gearbox that prevents it being started in gear.

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby TorreDelAguila » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:20 pm

Check the main battery connections*. A bit of resistance there could be enough to operate lights, but not the 200-300amp for the starter.
Two clues:
- After trying to crank, one of the battery terminals gets warm
- With some lights switched on (eg interior light) when you try to crank they extinguish

Possible, also that the battery has failed internally. Try another one, or a jump start.

* If battery connectors are original lead (Pb) lumps, they can relax their grip on the cable strands, and allow the copper strands to oxidise (blacken). This offers resistance. Cut the old ones off, and replace with new.

Check also the Ground connection from Battery to body/engine. A successful jump start (or starting ok with a new battery) would rule this out.
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:16 pm

Haedlights go on full beam. No click when I turn the ignition

The car is manual, petrol

Hmmmmmmm

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby TorreDelAguila » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:21 pm

Unicorn wrote:Headlights go on full beam...

Forget the headlights for the momemt.
If you sit in the car, and put the interior light on, what happens to its brightness when you try to crank?
Does it dim, or go out?
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:02 pm

No it doesn't

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby costakid » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:19 pm

Have you tried bump starting it? If it goes with a bump that eliminates a lot of things and points to just a few.

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Re: Deceased Land Ro

Postby TorreDelAguila » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:32 pm

Unicorn wrote:No it doesn't

Then your battery and its connections are good.
No click of the starter solenoid (part of the starter motor) indicates that either the solenoid isn't being energised by the ignition switch (the switch could be faulty) or the solenoid itself is jammed.
You will need an auto electrician to check this out, and make a test of the starter motor by a direct connection to it.
Starter motors themselves can fail or jam, but no click signifies a supply or solenoid fault.
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Gasman » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:36 pm

Could a mouse or rat have chewed on a vital lead somewhere? We had that once on our Defender !!

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Trooperman » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:08 am

Unless I've missed something you don't say what LR you've got. Is it a Td5 engine? ........'cos I know all about them as I have a Td5 Disco.
Please tell.
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:21 am

Looking at the paperwork is seems to be a Freelander TDR6

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Trooperman » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:32 am

I thought Td6 engines were Range Rover and Td4 were Freelander - both BMW derived units - but what do I know - I worship at the shrine of Td5 Discos!!!
Two pieces of useful advice in all the above replies:
1. Join a specific forum dedicated to your vehicle viz. Freelanders
2. From all the clues you've given, I'd be looking at the starter motor and its solenoid.

Good luck - if I come across anything useful I'll be back with a post.
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Trooperman » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:02 am

Here's some useful stuff - not specific to a Td4 - but worthwhile background reading (as if you've nothing better to do!):

https://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?2640-Freelander-Intermitant-starter
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:03 pm

Thank you Trooperman.

TD6 is what it says on the paperwork!

I shall study you stuff carefully.

I'm not going to do anything over the weekend

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:14 pm

Mapfre came and took the car away to the garage.

The Mapfre man thinks is is the starter motor.

So fingers crossed.

Costakid, he did try to bump it!

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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby TorreDelAguila » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:50 pm

Let us know what the outcome is...
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Re: Deceased Land Rover

Postby Unicorn » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:23 am

Certainly will, but I fear the worst............... :( :( :( :( :( :( :(


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