taking Spanish reg. moped to UK

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taking Spanish reg. moped to UK

Postby pilgrim » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:10 am

I want to send my sons Spanish reg moped to UK for him to use whilst at college (Have transport, he has UK license, and done his test, and have arranged to get it restricted in UK) is it a simple process :) Do I need any other documents besides ownership papers. Anyone point me in the right direction pleeease?

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Postby spanish_lad » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:09 am

you wouldn´t be able to insure it in the uk. why not get a 300 quid second hand one off of ebay for him, the spanish one can stay in spain.
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Postby Guest » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:14 pm

Spanish lad, what's the problem with insurance??

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Postby Beachcomber » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:23 pm

It is probably the same problem with UK registered vehicles in Spain only the other way round.

It is illegal for Spanish insurance companies to insure foreign registered vehicles and whilst there are Gibraltar based UK companies which will provide some kind of questionable cover for UK registered vehicles in Spain there is no Spanish enclave attached to the UK mainland which could reciprocate in the case of Spanish registered vehicles being used in the UK.

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Postby pilgrim » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:22 pm

I want to put it on uk plates, so no problem with insurance, still waiting to hear from DVLC thats why I posted here, as to buying one from ebay, no chance, no history and besides he wants his spanish one(16yrs old, street cred and all that) as similar one in uk far more expensive.

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Re: moped

Postby spanish_lad » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:45 am

pilgrim wrote:I want to put it on uk plates, so no problem with insurance, still waiting to hear from DVLC thats why I posted here, as to buying one from ebay, no chance, no history and besides he wants his spanish one(16yrs old, street cred and all that) as similar one in uk far more expensive.


oh right, so you have already paid for it in the first place, now you are going to pay to get it shipped to the uk, then pay to get it to uk spec (new headlightand restrictor), then pay to get it transfered to uk plates, then when he is finished, pay to get it shipped back to spain, then pay to get it back on spanish plates...

have you thought this thru? thats not taking into account a uk CBT as the spanish one wont be legal, the insurance costs for a 16 year old with no parents at home, and fuel (does he work? )

...thats why i say buy a cheap one that can be re-sold at the end...
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Postby ashtondav » Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:17 pm

Also, do not forget that in the UK he will need a crash helmet and exhaust system/silencer :lol:

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Postby Kitesurfer. » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:40 pm

you wouldn´t be able to insure it in the uk.


Since when? I had a Spanish motorbike in the UK 2 years ago and a French car last year? Both insured through specialist brokers but it's possible. They give a limited issue until any work is done to convert the electrics and any noise/emission tests and have it VIC checked. I had 4 months in which to change mine and did so.

Also, has anyone considered that Pilgrim may want his son to ride the same bike whilst building experience instead of changing from what sounds quite new, to a 300 'quid' death trap?

You know, this guy Pilgrim is most probably making financial decisions on your answer so you need to be more accurate rather than repeat hear say.

Pilgrim.

If you decide to send it for your son, a garage can do the work quite cheaply if your sons not that way inclined. It'd take less than a morning to complete for an experienced guy so I'd say do it.
Have a look at this link but don't let it faze you, it's easier than it looks, or should be.

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Postby Kitesurfer. » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:33 am

oooops.......... here it is.

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/exptimpt.htm

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Postby pilgrim » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:24 pm

Have got my reply from dvla, so for info 38 pounds to register it , own personal possesion so no import tax, one hundred and five pounds to transport it from Sevilla to Sussex. Bike is one year old and done less than 6000 kms. So I will ahve one happy son in uk :D

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Postby ian.wilson » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:09 pm

Not 100% sure but I don´t think a 16yr old is allowed to drive a scooter in the UK. You have to be 17yr old to get yout provisional then you have pass the CBT to validate you to drive it.

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Postby spanish_lad » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:04 pm

Kitesurfer. wrote:
Also, has anyone considered that Pilgrim may want his son to ride the same bike whilst building experience instead of changing from what sounds quite new, to a 300 'quid' death trap?


second hand mopeds in spain are 600 euros. thats onlt 428 quid...are you saying that all spanish bikes are death traps ?

whatever, i dont even care, i was just expressing an opinion...
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Postby normske » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:03 pm

pilgrim, who is shipping for you? Got a couple of bikes i need to export and import

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Postby Kitesurfer. » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:53 pm

Not 100% sure but I don´t think a 16yr old is allowed to drive a scooter in the UK. You have to be 17yr old to get yout provisional then you have pass the CBT to validate you to drive it.


Ian. You can ride a moped at 16 in the UK. All bike riders need to take a CBT unless you have full car which you can ride on L plates without a CBT. tTheres age restrictions on that which change every few years so it'll need to be checked out.
At 17 you can ride a bike up to 125cc and not over 12bhp? It was 12 for years but then again it may have been raised. After a CBT you can then take a normal test which will give you two years n a bike 33bhp and under before getting anything more powerfull. Another option at 17 plus is direct access which is a compulsory length of test and gives you unlimited cc and bhp access on a pass.

Spanish lad, if you want to ride around on a 300 quid moped then go ahead. Yes I would consider that money a death trap and although I agree it was just your opinion, so was not being able to insure a Spanish bike in the UK which we all now know to be a 100% made up.
You'll find if you have enough knowledge about a given subject, the need to make up information to fill in gaps won't leave you looking such a plonka.

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Postby nigel_t » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:36 pm

Beachcomber wrote:there are Gibraltar based UK companies which will provide some kind of questionable cover for UK registered vehicles in Spain


I have my UK car insured here with one of the above mentioned companies.

The cover is excellent with breakdown cover far better than any in the UK. The policy is underwritten by Lloyds of London and the cost was not that different to our old policy in the UK.

Dont tar everyone with the same brush!!

If anyone would like their details then please PM me.


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