Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

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Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby TinaTapas » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:31 pm

We were stitched up by our architect (apparently not the only ones to fall foul of this outfit)

Long story short, at the end of the project (which was basically a rebuild of a section of our property, due to structural damage) he pronounced everything satisfactory and said he'd be signing off on the build

After a month or so, we'd heard nothing and so went in to the office.
We were then suddenly told that we'd need to pay more money, as they needed to re-submit plans to collegio
Prior to the build, when we'd queried the Architect's initial and inaccurate AutoCAD plan, we were assured that this was just in order to obtain the licence quickly and that they would be submitting the correct plans.
We were assured that all costs were covered in the fee the architect had charged and insisted on being paid in full - in advance of any work

All of the above took place during several meetings, and was witnessed by bi-lingual translators

If we want to sell the property, we obviously have the licence - but as the architect hasn't signed off, I assume this isn't straightforward?

Another architect says that he can issue a certificate of antiquity (for the house and also for a couple of almacenes which aren't listed on the deeds) and that this will suffice.
He says I can then choose to sell as is, or I can register the "new" builds with the notary

As his fee is considerably less than what the other Shyster wanted to charge to sign off on the property, I am tempted
Has anyone done this successfully? I'd be grateful for your feedback

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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby fincalospinos » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:36 am

For a certificate of antiquity to be granted the structure needs to be at least 7 years old ( this time may vary in different areas ).

Once this has been issued you can normaly update the property at the land registery. I would advise that you do this prior to selling the property as it may put potential buyers off if the paperwork is not correct.
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Postby peteroldracer » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:21 am

We used an excellent abogada to sort out a certificate for our house, a 'reform' of an ancient village house, who got an architect and a technical architect to come, take photos and the plans and submit them to the College of Architects who granted a certificate. We have now sold our house abd all the paperwork has been approved by all involved, so yes, it was worth getting it!
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Postby TinaTapas » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:46 pm

Many thanks for the feedback - we already have licences - just that the architect attempted to screw more money out of us at the end of the rebuild...

Would you mind giving me a ballpark figure of what you had to pay, Pete?

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Postby Enrique » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:02 pm

Hi T T,
Ours was just over 600€, small change compared with rest of Architects bill......... :shock:
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Postby TinaTapas » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:12 pm

Thanks Enrique - trouble is, we've already paid for this to be done - to the former architect, who is now up on several charges

So 600 euros to us isn't chump change - as we've already paid 1000's for this to be completed ...

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Postby Enrique » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:24 pm

It isn't to me either, rest of the Bill.........was the best Robbery without a gun I've come across.......... :twisted:

Still we have a new roof .......... :thumbup:
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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby TinaTapas » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:25 pm

I'm with you 100% - just wondering when EU law will kick in down here...

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Postby wollie » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:36 pm

fincalospinos wrote:For a certificate of antiquity to be granted the structure needs to be at least 7 years old ( this time may vary in different areas ).

Once this has been issued you can normaly update the property at the land registery. I would advise that you do this prior to selling the property as it may put potential buyers off if the paperwork is not correct.


I know of people who basically "winged it" when they had alterations and extensions to their properties.
One got a licence for changes and another did not.
Does above say that they both can get their properties made legal and if so what is process?
Also will they need proof of when the work was carried out? both must now be 1o years or even more.

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Postby El Cid » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:38 pm

TinaTapas wrote:I'm with you 100% - just wondering when EU law will kick in down here...


What EU law would that be?

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Postby peteroldracer » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:42 pm

"What EU law would that be?"
And what will that have to do with the UK in a couple of years time thanks to the Trump - sorry I mean Brexit voters?
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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby El Cid » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:32 pm

What's it got to do with either? EU law will still apply in Spain and we are talking about Spanish properties here.

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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby TinaTapas » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:38 pm

Bit vague, sorry - I quoted my abogado, who "joked" with me about Spain ignoring manyt EU laws concerning property owners' rights

Aside from that, has anyone managed to obtain a digital signature from the Catastral online office? I'm using Firefox, but no luck so far...

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Postby peteroldracer » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:52 pm

Have you read the FAQ on here about digital certificates tina?
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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby TinaTapas » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:17 pm

Hi Pete, no, would you mind telling me where to look or providing a link? Many thanks

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Re: Certificates of Antiquity - are they worth it?

Postby peteroldracer » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:10 pm

Look at the categories on this forum, the section Andalucia.com FAQs.
I think with the catastral you are trying to buy fish from a butcher.....lol
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