Moving to UK-

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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Wicksey » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:20 pm

Miro wrote:
firsttango wrote:...took me a while to understand her question


I'm still having a few embarrassing moments, usually in supermarkets,


:lol: we are like that and trying to find the right change is embarrassing too. We both need reading glasses to see anything clearly and without them to hand, we often end up pouring the contents of purse/wallet onto the counter and sift through it like a couple of old people looking for the right coins. I'm just glad we don't travel by public transport there and have to cope with the ticket machines, or cashless payment which I think bus companies use as well.

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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby firsttango » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:21 pm

Wicksey/Miro I fully feel your pain, my next hurdle is going to be buying a car in Sept to use on our visits.....one daughter lives in West London....I am simply dreading tackling the M4 into London from Reading onwards and when it comes to these charging zones in London I have absolutely no idea....should be fun :crazy:

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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Miro » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:14 pm

Cashless payments - mmm....I've tried that a couple of times; usually get chased across the cafe / bar before I reach my seat, and then remember that you have to pay before you drink your coffee / beer! :wtf: I was pleasantly surprised in my new discovery on Union St. (think they've recently moved from over the road on Eastbank, it's called Hamlett's) when I was told I can pay afterwards, though. Another chap was in there, talking about a recent trip to NYC, and saying this cafe was the nearest thing in Southport to the cafes over there - high praise indeed.

Despite commuting daily from the age of 10 to 21 on the London Underground, since then I've pretty much avoided public transport in the UK altogether so had no idea what to expect. So far I've only taken the bus to Ormskirk once, and the train to Liverpool once, but both trips were very easy. The train journey, in just about all aspects, from buying the ticket to the trip itself, I was pleasantly surprised with, and thought it compared favourably to similar trips I've made regularly in both Spain & Germany in recent years. Probably dearer than in either, but otherwise no problems at all.

Saying that, FT I don't envy you and would not relish a journey down south, either on public transport or by car. Fortunately I have no plans to venture south. Although my Scouse / Lancashire accent is probably no better than my Spanish, I actually feel like I'm integrating pretty well here, and the locals don't even seem to notice!
One thing to consider: my new car here has reversing parking sensors, which have been invaluable in reminding me that "touch" parking, Spanish style, is generally not acceptable over here! :lol:
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Miro » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:13 pm

Devils Advocate wrote:It amazes me that people from Merseyside and indeed Manchester often overlook New Brighton and the Wirral for a day out in favour of other destinations.


Yet to do "over the water", but today had my first taste of Formby beach. O-M-G - wow, absolutely stunning, probably the most beautiful stretch of totally unspoiled coastline I've seen since visiting Tarifa a few years back. Gorgeous sunny day, perfect temperature too. Even got to see some lovely red squirrels - must be the first time in 40 odd years for me.
Torremolinos beach in August v Formby beach in August? Absolutely, unequivocally NO CONTEST :thumbup:

When we lived in Boston, I used to love visiting Walden Pond
When we lived in Torremolinos, I used to love visiting El Chorro
Living here, I am going to love visiting Formby beach. It will forever be right up there on my list of favourite, truly special spots in the world. :D
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Devils Advocate » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:29 am

Great to read your account and thoughts on Formby beach, all as I can say is I 100% agree with you. Every time we park up and walk over the large dune near the car park and see the Mersey it gets to me. Such a rugged and beautiful place, we walk for miles there and never tire of it, whether it be mid summer, spring or winter. I've been going there since I could walk.
Wait until you see the algae reaction on the tide when it all froths up, amazing sight.

Did you walk left on the beach towards Crosby? All those bricks and masonry you see on that stretch also tell a story.
The North West coastline is special Miro, I'd miss it and it's one small reason we shelved plans to "move across" to another country years ago.

I take it you'll be doing Crosby and the iron men next, then on to the Wirral peninsular, you'll love it all.

As an aside, still looking forward to your thoughts on the coffee and the portion of roast chicken and roast potato's at the "Deli" !!

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Postby Miro » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:37 pm

I saw the iron men a few years ago, but they're probably due another visit soon. I'm loving it all. We've joined the National Trust, so there'll be plenty more days out to come as we reacquaint ourselves with all that's great about Britain.

Popped into Hamlett's again today for a coffee, and chatted to Pete the owner for a while about Spain - he'd like to move to Sitges but it's so expensive, and he doesn't have the time right now anyway...and then an added bonus, turns out his young assistant Sonja is from Mexico, so we spent a while chatting in Spanish - first proper conversation in Spanish for a couple of months. We'll be making this our regular from now on, not just for the great coffee but for the chance to keep our Spanish up :thumbup:

Until Volare halve their prices for coffee, I'm afraid they're slipping down my list of places to try :( Sorry!
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Postby Wicksey » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:06 pm

There was a house programme on TV a few weeks back based in the Wirral and Formby areas. Must say I was very impressed and thought it looked lovely with wonderful beaches. Although my parents lived in the Peak District and I used to fly into Liverpool/Manchester and used to have many of my work training courses in Manchester, it still feels a bit foreign to me, coming as I do from the south. I always found everyone so friendly unlike in London, and people would always chat away to me on the buses and trains.(My first foray north of Watford in my late teens was quite a shock to the system .... I had never been abroad and never travelled north of London before!)

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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Miro » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:32 pm

:lol: I'll never forget the first time I jumped on a local bus in Liverpool, and the person sitting next to me (shock horror) started chatting to me. A real culture shock after "growing up" on the Tube. And I also remember a chap sitting next to me at a bar while Mrs.M had her hair cut next door, buying me a pint simply because I was "not from around 'ere". Never happened in Spain! (Not even in Torremolinos, where good looking chaps like me sitting in bars alone may expect other chaps on their own to strike up a conversation!)

Just come across this (semi-interesting) article about returning expats and how to cope with reverse culture shock: http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/201708 ... at-country
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Miro » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:09 am

I do hope I'm not boring people with my continuing rants about fresh vegetables here in the UK?
I stopped at one of the local farm shops a few days ago (Rimmer's, opposite Dobbies, for those who know the area). Large shop area with a small fancy display in the middle, nothing to excite me - less than my tiny local fruteria in Torremolinos had crammed into their shop every morning (fresh from the market in Málaga) and nothing that I can't buy in the supermarkets cheaper (albeit with loads of unnecessary packaging). But individually priced tomatoes? :wtf: I fail to see that these places are anything more than a gimmick. I'm not going to waste time and fuel (and pollute the atmosphere) just to buy direct from the farm (if in fact it is anyway).
One good thing (ish) - parsnips! A rare treat in Spain, basically only ever available at Christmas, and according to our local fruteria, only bought by the Brits! Far cheaper here: 59p for a 500gm pack in Asda. But WTF? No complaint about the price, but that's literally FIVE parsnips per pack. I know it's a question of lifestyle and personal choice, but we almost always cook meals to last a few days, so we cooked two packs of parsnips, creating two unnecessary pieces of waste plastic to be disposed of. Who cooks just five parsnips? Amazingly, on the package it says "six portions". It also says that one portion equals one of your five a day. So....less than one parsnip per person for a meal? And less than one parsnip for one of your five a day? I must have had about 17 of my daily five already then, and it's still only 11 o'clock! (I've had at least three in the form of orange juice alone) And unlike most of the people I see around here, I'm not overweight! :crazy:
We're gradually finding where to buy everything we need, but we're still finding the ridiculously small packaging utterly bizarre. I'm actually pining for the US, where everything was supersized!
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby BENIDORM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:49 am

Hello Miro,
I for one enjoy reading your exploits whether it be the price of carrots or your journey back to UK and dealing with life's problems and I can see that it has been arduous and sometimes difficult and I hope that you are now gradually settling into your 'new life'.
Often your words and comments have been extremely thought provoking and I have appreciated your efforts to report and chronicle each chapter of your journey..
I look forward to hearing more. :thumbup:

Regards,
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Gasman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:10 pm

Miro - all very interesting, thank you. However, do keep up the comparisons with Andalucia or Cid might be on your case for going off topic!!!
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby elusive » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:49 pm

Dito. Very much enjoy your thoughts miro. Keep them coming

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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby El Cid » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:48 pm

Gasman wrote:However, do keep up the comparisons with Andalucia or Cid might be on your case for going off topic!!!
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Miro » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:35 pm

Fair comment. Come Christmas, I'll ask my former neighbours to pop down the road and check out the price of parsnips in Torremolinos :lol:
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Re: Moving to UK-

Postby Gasman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:06 pm

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