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Monarch Airlines

Postby costakid » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:43 pm

It looks like they are in trouble again. Staff have been asked to work unpaid overtime if it all goes wrong to help people get home.

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby mijasdavid » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:53 am

You're right, it doesn't look good for them at all and hasn't done for some time.



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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby fincalospinos » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:27 am

Gone bust -- all flights cancelled.
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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby costakid » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:02 am

End of an era. 50 years trading but didn't move on in the modern world of airlines.
I was a gold card holder for around 5 years and Monarch were my favourite airline but I haven't used them for years. The attraction was a half descent meal, free drink and a newspaper. They went to a no frills airline but without the no frills prices. Shame.

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Wicksey » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:22 am

The founding brothers sold out in 2014 and it's been downhill since then. Glad my forthcoming trip to Gatwick was booked Easyjet and not Monarch .... mind you, still time for Easyjet to do a Ryanair!

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby peteroldracer » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:41 am

If industry was football Monarch could have negotiated transfer fees for their crew to Ryanair.....
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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby oliveview01 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:12 pm

Friends daughter in law was cabin crew, she got a text saying job gone

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Lyric » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:14 pm

I suppose if it failed then some of their pilots and cabin crew could be accommodated at Ryanair.


Sadly not an option, Monarch were an Airbus operator, Ryanair have a Boeing fleet.
Can't see O'Leary paying for the conversion courses (thousands per pilot)

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Pamela1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 pm

I too liked Monarch above the rest, shame about their ticket prices, once over they were competitive but in the last few years i thought they were expensive and we stopped booking flights with them..

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Pamela1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:09 pm

Lyric wrote:
I suppose if it failed then some of their pilots and cabin crew could be accommodated at Ryanair.


Sadly not an option, Monarch were an Airbus operator, Ryanair have a Boeing fleet.
Can't see O'Leary paying for the conversion courses (thousands per pilot)


Who knows? Some pilots may have had training on both..

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Lyric » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:15 pm

That's true but I don't think they can be current on more than one "Family" therefore they can fly A320 series, and as they are nearly identical, A330 and A340 series too, but not Boeing series as they are fundamentally different. There will be some re-training involved therefore cost. That said Ryanair are, it seems, recruiting this week at the various Monarch bases.

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby costakid » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:18 pm

A few days in the sim and they can convert. The main difference with Airbus and Boeing is that Airbus is joystick and fly by wire. With Boeing you actually feel like you are flying as you still push and pull back leavers. Still all automatic but the feel is completely different.

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Lyric » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:31 pm

And a few days in the classroom as they have to learn the very different systems, not to my engineering level but to a level that they can understand what is going on.
I think conversion takes about two weeks, maybe more and it will cost, which was really my point, O'Leary does not like cost.

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby peteroldracer » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:57 pm

It seems like a no-brainer - cost and pilots, no cost and no pilots!
I suppose the trolley-dollies will need a course on how to wheel different trolleys?
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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby maureenscot » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:30 pm

Ryanair has been spotted pilot training at Prestwick airport.
I lost my holiday to Macedonia yesterday. I had booked from Inverness to Luton on Easyjet. Then 3 hours later Luton to Macedonia. The next plane would have been on Wednesday.
Easyjet were over 3 hours delay at Inverness - the usual 'will be 3/4 of an hour delay' and so on. So we had to go back home and lost the holiday

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby elusive » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:32 pm

Sorry to hear that. Did u buy your flights with a uk credit card and they cost more than £100. if so you can reclaim off them if you arent covered on your travel insurance

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Enrique » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:50 pm

Hi maureenscott,
I'm guessing you're getting up to speed on what to do next.............some info

https://monarch.caa.co.uk/customers/i-h ... elled-yet/

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41463787
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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby maureenscot » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:21 am

Thank you Enrique. No it was a debit card elusive

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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby peteroldracer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:24 am

Maybe Ryanair could pick up a few Airbus aircraft cheap, along with the crews and ground staff.......
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Re: Monarch Airlines

Postby Superplonk » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:48 am

What's the procedure for getting a refund for a Spain-UK flight that was booked with a Spanish credit card? All the advice I've seen is for UK-based customers.


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