Cheap Wines in Spain
To be politically and geographically correct Champagne can only be produced in the original area of it's conception ie, Champagne France, but, before making my own (humble) views public I would be interested to hear comments from others regarding the comparisons between origina French Champagnes and similar sparkling wines from other regions notably Spain!
Any thoughts opinions?
Any thoughts opinions?
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Grouser, thanks for the reply, it's actually the Analivia wine that we can't find, we stock up with the Albali white 30 minutes after plane lands
Just can't find it anywhere yet as I say some bars use it.
Another point...before we bought in Spain we used to enjoy Frexinet Negro brut. After buying it a lot in Spain, the stuff you buy over here just does not taste the same ......I think the same with San Miguel beer too...........must just be me but I'm not sure. Anyone else found this?
The Frexinet in the white bottle is a nice drink too.
Kenny
Just can't find it anywhere yet as I say some bars use it.
Another point...before we bought in Spain we used to enjoy Frexinet Negro brut. After buying it a lot in Spain, the stuff you buy over here just does not taste the same ......I think the same with San Miguel beer too...........must just be me but I'm not sure. Anyone else found this?
The Frexinet in the white bottle is a nice drink too.
Kenny
moving on to cava -
relatively simple for us: codorniu
the pinot noir rose
and the chardonnay non-plus
my wife and i split a benjamin every day at lunch
(i should point out that we only drink wine with meals... )
yes, retro,
only champagne
grown & bottled in the champagne region of france
may be called champagne -
(brought to you by the treaty of versailles)
much the same as with cognac
(although cheaper and perhaps better is armagnac)
relatively simple for us: codorniu
the pinot noir rose
and the chardonnay non-plus
my wife and i split a benjamin every day at lunch
(i should point out that we only drink wine with meals... )
yes, retro,
only champagne
grown & bottled in the champagne region of france
may be called champagne -
(brought to you by the treaty of versailles)
much the same as with cognac
(although cheaper and perhaps better is armagnac)
Champagne, as we know it, is just a sparkling (and can be very expensive) white wine from the Champagne region.
The first sparkling white wines actually came from the South East of France - a place called Limoux. This area has produced wines much more superior to 'Champagne' for decades. Actually the Champagne area just copies the idea from Limoux!! Yes...I agree ... they had much better marketing skills!
I ever you get the chance....buy a bottle of 'Blanquette de Limoux'..... sit back and savour it........ delicious!
All this talk of wine has suddenly created a dreadful thirst! Pröschtli (Cheers!)
The first sparkling white wines actually came from the South East of France - a place called Limoux. This area has produced wines much more superior to 'Champagne' for decades. Actually the Champagne area just copies the idea from Limoux!! Yes...I agree ... they had much better marketing skills!
I ever you get the chance....buy a bottle of 'Blanquette de Limoux'..... sit back and savour it........ delicious!
All this talk of wine has suddenly created a dreadful thirst! Pröschtli (Cheers!)
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Nevada, don't evade the question (not a wine snob are you)nevada smith wrote:moving on to cava -
relatively simple for us: codorniu
the pinot noir rose
and the chardonnay non-plus
my wife and i split a benjamin every day at lunch
(i should point out that we only drink wine with meals... )
yes, retro,
only champagne
grown & bottled in the champagne region of france
may be called champagne -
(brought to you by the treaty of versailles)
much the same as with cognac
(although cheaper and perhaps better is armagnac)
I want to know the views of others when comparing the various sparkling wines of other regions against champagne, ie, do you think Freixenet is cack as opposed to champagne, don't bother intruducing any italian stuff as the world knows it's all duff, come on then Freixenet rubbish or what?
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........."Freixenet rubbish or what?"
I AM a wine snob (among other things!) ....and happy to admit it...when you have your own vineyards you are expected to be!
With a name like 'Freixenet'???? (sounds like a drain cleaner to me).......I never heard of it.......I rest my case.
I AM a wine snob (among other things!) ....and happy to admit it...when you have your own vineyards you are expected to be!
With a name like 'Freixenet'???? (sounds like a drain cleaner to me).......I never heard of it.......I rest my case.
- You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note -
Well I am not a 'wine snob', and although I've been known to drink wine which was probably better sprinkled on fish and chips, I do have some preferences....I actually do prefer Cava to Champagne, and yes you are probably thinking , 'he only likes it because it's cheap', and yes you are probably correct !
As for the sparkling wines from the South East of France, I have tried some and yes they are quite delightful., and if I remember correctly quite reasonably priced,..
And Freixenet as a toilet cleaner, what a waste that would be...Coca Cola is a much more efficient toilet cleaner...true...try it...
As for the sparkling wines from the South East of France, I have tried some and yes they are quite delightful., and if I remember correctly quite reasonably priced,..
And Freixenet as a toilet cleaner, what a waste that would be...Coca Cola is a much more efficient toilet cleaner...true...try it...
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Google is almost right - they are not from the same area but they both are made by the same company – Felix Solis.Colinm wrote:Kenny, if you goooooogle Analivia you get to the vineyard details, which seems to be the same vineyard as the Albali!
The Albali comes from the Penedes region and uses the Macabeo or Airen grape – it will say which on the bottle.
Analivia come from the Rueda wine region where they make some of the best white wines in Spain. It uses the local Verdejo grape. The Sauvignon Blanc wines from Rueda are often equal to anything the French can produce.
Sid
Laclotte (does that translate as the clot) my french is not good, The term wine snob in general use is meant to be a put down, in your case "when you own your own vineyards your'e meant to be"
No oenologist (forgive my spelling) can know everything about wine, it's not possible there are just too many of them out there, ergo you cannot call yourself a wine snob, as for your remaks concerning your ownership of "vineyards" in the plural it suggests you are someone of business acumen and financial substance, why then are you bothering to post on a general forum, to suggest that you are knowledgeable about wines and not be aware of Freixenet, which for your information is one of the oldest and most respected vineyards in Spain would be nothing short of ignorance.
I don't wish to argue with you or become involved in a slanging match I was simply entering a debate about various winegrowing regions throughout the world.
If you are one of those who bekieves that only in France can good wines be grown then your social education lacks completion.
My friend is a part owner of a vineyard in France he bought his shares on the internet for 500 euros, he too is a vineyard "owner"
No oenologist (forgive my spelling) can know everything about wine, it's not possible there are just too many of them out there, ergo you cannot call yourself a wine snob, as for your remaks concerning your ownership of "vineyards" in the plural it suggests you are someone of business acumen and financial substance, why then are you bothering to post on a general forum, to suggest that you are knowledgeable about wines and not be aware of Freixenet, which for your information is one of the oldest and most respected vineyards in Spain would be nothing short of ignorance.
I don't wish to argue with you or become involved in a slanging match I was simply entering a debate about various winegrowing regions throughout the world.
If you are one of those who bekieves that only in France can good wines be grown then your social education lacks completion.
My friend is a part owner of a vineyard in France he bought his shares on the internet for 500 euros, he too is a vineyard "owner"
Ah! the full english!!
retro,
i was responding to beni’s posting
my response just appeared below & after yours
you know me, i don’t skirt any issue...
i think that ‘champagne’ is overrated and overpriced
(but i won’t turn down the glass of taittinger or clicquot)
best friends,
xesc (1 star cook) and wife barbara only offer freixenet (black)
or one of their many wine ‘finds’ when we arrive -
we both start with the freixenet...
i was responding to beni’s posting
my response just appeared below & after yours
you know me, i don’t skirt any issue...
i think that ‘champagne’ is overrated and overpriced
(but i won’t turn down the glass of taittinger or clicquot)
best friends,
xesc (1 star cook) and wife barbara only offer freixenet (black)
or one of their many wine ‘finds’ when we arrive -
we both start with the freixenet...
I know for sure that you don't skirt any issues Nevada, and good for you for having the bottle [Sic] to use the good stuff, long live Spanish wines, as opposed to French (with vines imported from the USA)nevada smith wrote:retro,
i was responding to beni’s posting
my response just appeared below & after yours
you know me, i don’t skirt any issue...
i think that ‘champagne’ is overrated and overpriced
(but i won’t turn down the glass of taittinger or clicquot)
best friends,
xesc (1 star cook) and wife barbara only offer freixenet (black)
or one of their many wine ‘finds’ when we arrive -
we both start with the freixenet...
Ah! the full english!!
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