Cost of air con in a car

Other topics that are not covered in the sections above.
Heston
Resident
Posts: 618
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:56 pm
Location: Jaen

Cost of air con in a car

Postby Heston » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:00 pm

Hi all

anyone know roughly the cost to have air con installed in car over here...cant cope with another Summer without it!
:D

User avatar
Retro P
Resident
Posts: 1928
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:00 pm
Location: York/Marbella
Contact:

Re: Cost of air con in a car

Postby Retro P » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:06 pm

Don't really know, it's definitely not cheap though I wouldn't think there'd be much change from 1000 euros
Ah! the full english!!

Heston
Resident
Posts: 618
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:56 pm
Location: Jaen

air con

Postby Heston » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:15 pm

Thanks

Oh my goodness looks like its another sweaty Summer with the windows open!
:(

User avatar
Retro P
Resident
Posts: 1928
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:00 pm
Location: York/Marbella
Contact:

Re: air con

Postby Retro P » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:20 pm

One good trick the Spanish use it to buy a small electrical circular fan and mount it on the dashboard of the car, it's very effective and you can get them from most car part suppliers, they plug into the cars cigarette lighter socket!
Ah! the full english!!

User avatar
spanish_lad
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5740
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Alhaurin el Grande since 99

Postby spanish_lad » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:53 pm

get aircon installed?? aftermarket aircon?? never heard of it being retro installed :? :?

User avatar
stellastaff
Andalucia.com Amigo
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:45 pm
Location: Essex

Postby stellastaff » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:59 pm

Yep, about 1000€ sounds right. We looked into it as our car has none-we decided to just keep winding the windows down! :(
Donna

alaninspain
Resident
Posts: 920
Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:28 am
Location: Benalmadena

Postby alaninspain » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:28 pm

When calculating the cost, take into account it can reduce your fuel consumption by up to 25%.

Heston
Resident
Posts: 618
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:56 pm
Location: Jaen

Aircon

Postby Heston » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:55 pm

Retro thanks think will go with the fan idea!!

User avatar
daneinspain
Resident
Posts: 320
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 am
Location: Marbella Born and Bred (For better or worse!)

Postby daneinspain » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:27 am

The option of installing ac in a car is not very popular nor recommended and not cheap as you can see. Its usually about 1500. It is usually very problematic, you are better off buying a car with air con but then it reduces fuel consumption and power so I dont use it on my cars.

You can always cut out holes at the bottom of the windscreen and install a flap like on my land rover defender simply move the lever inside and lots of nice fresh air (it has a grille so I dont get wasps in my mouth!) There are other tricks like opening front windows as well as rear to let air flow in and out so it doesnt accumulate or hang a wet cloth in the window - air passing over water is cooled down and hence cold air.

Heston
Resident
Posts: 618
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:56 pm
Location: Jaen

air con

Postby Heston » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:34 am

defo gone off the idea will have to save up for new car with Aircon!

Daneinspain :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

julian
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5976
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:38 pm
Location: marbella

air con

Postby julian » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:13 am

I presume the air con increases rather than "reduces" fuel consumption

Mixter
Andalucia.com Amigo
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:42 pm

Re: air con

Postby Mixter » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:20 am

julian wrote:I presume the air con increases rather than "reduces" fuel consumption
Thats what i thought. But its never 25%. Weve had air-con in cars for a few years now, and always still got good MPG returns. While flaps and open windows are an option - they are a very poor substitute, as all you are getting is warm air, dust and insects.

julian
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5976
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:38 pm
Location: marbella

air con

Postby julian » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:34 am

i couldn´t live here without air con in the car !!!

User avatar
Julie
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 3534
Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:47 pm
Location: Andalucia & Greater Manchester

air con

Postby Julie » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:10 am

I have air con and it is a great drain on fuel consumption in my car, i would agree with the 25%, but having said that i wouldn't like to be without it :)

Campo Kenny

Postby Campo Kenny » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:22 am

The smaller engined cars do suffer from the economy side of aircon more than a larger engined vehicle.


The other thing is though, just having your windows open or a sunroof open really puts up your mpg through drag, the car is just acting as a big air-brake with any of these open. You save this loss with air-con and your windows shut :idea:

Kenny

User avatar
daneinspain
Resident
Posts: 320
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 am
Location: Marbella Born and Bred (For better or worse!)

Postby daneinspain » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:40 am

Good point kenny but if you do open windows a bit front and let air escape out of rear windows its not as bad as opening front windows fully. Personally the ac makes me ill so I dont use it unless its that hot!

Mixter
Andalucia.com Amigo
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:42 pm

Postby Mixter » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:23 pm

Weve run 2L turbo diesels for about 7 years now. The air-con has NEVER been off - its just in the 'on' position forever. And, weve never had less than 50 MPG out of these motors - and that includes thrashing them down the motorway at times.

Valencia_Paul
Resident
Posts: 284
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:04 pm
Location: Liverpool and Valencia Region

Postby Valencia_Paul » Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:03 pm

No I have never heard of anybody fitting air-con to a car that didn't have it from new.

I remember driving my boss's Ford Grenada 2 litre diesel years ago and when you turned on the A/C you could feel the loss of power. I think modern car A/C units are much more efficient and I reckon the extra fuel consumption is no more than 5 to 10%.

You would probably add 5% fuel consumption to a non A/C car by driving down the motorway with all the windows open due to extra drag.

I couldn't imagine driving in Spain without A/C now although I have suffered without it in the past - you know when the small of your back is soaking wet and you stick to the seats.

El Cid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 15182
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:42 pm
Location: La Herradura, Costa Tropical, Granada

Postby El Cid » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:25 pm

There are so many factors to consider with regards to the effect of A/C on fuel consumption.

I have never noticed any difference in my car and its pretty easy to test as the computer records fuel consumption over very short periods so turning it on and off would show up at a constant speed.

I have tried it and the increase, if any, was not significant - certainly nowhere near to 25%.

There is an (inconclusive) article from the New Scientist here http://tinyurl.com/32mdlr

Sid

Mixter
Andalucia.com Amigo
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:42 pm

Postby Mixter » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:29 pm

No I have never heard of anybody fitting air-con to a car that didn't have it from new.
That said, there are - or were, A/C options in some cars - if you paid extra, like the old sun-roof/alloys thing. So, in these cars, they must be half set-up for it from new. Im thinking the Peugeot 306's etc.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests