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Postby julian » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:45 pm

good news, ETA announces ceasefire, let´s hope it´s permanent.

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Postby BENIDORM » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:08 pm

Good to hear...
....however some fringe dissident group will probably kick off at some point, and it will start all over again.. :(


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Postby patchdog » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:48 pm

Happily the British army is well occupied, so theres one fighting machine out of it.

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Postby hiker » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:19 pm

It's great news.
The nationalists are suffering badly because of the violence. They lost power last year to a Socialist/Conservative PSOE/PP coalition and have been out of the power for the first time since the fascists left town.

Most self-respecting nationalists would have nothing to do with parties that support violence. This could be reflected after the next election if the ETA stay quiet and, more importantly, decommision.
The nationalists may find themselves with a lot of support and back in government again.

It would be great to see both of Europes festering wounds healed, Northern Ireland and the Basque country.
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Postby katy » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:24 pm

Strange that they chose BBC news for this momentous announcement :wtf: Or was everywhere closed for the weekend in Spain :lol: Analysts say it is not clear if it is permanent, lets hope it is.

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Postby frank » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:00 pm

It is the eleventh cease fire they have announced over the years, so no way of knowing whether it will be any more successful than the rest. We live in hope.
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Postby markwilding » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:25 pm

I'm not sure this will be permanent. These people don't understand democracy. The wording of the statement doesn't take into account that most people don't want an independent Basque Country, So how are they going to achieve it through democracy. IMHO As soon as they see that they are as far as they can be independence wise they will go back to their old ways.

The reason that the nationalist lost power had nothing to do with independence. There are many within the main party who want it but there are also many who want a party to fight for their region in other ways without going completely down the independant route.
It had more to do with the constant discrimination against non Basque speakers and many people being put under pressure to learn it because if they don't, they will lose out in the job market. There are many who want their children to study in Spanish but the options were getting fewer and fewer.
You have the stange situation where doctors, who speak Basque, a have more chance of getting a job than experienced ones so the ones with experience goes to another part of Spain where he can get a job more easily. The Basque Country were losing too many good doctors to other parts of Spain

So the middle ground said enough is enough and voted the other way. In the end it was very close, although if Batasuna becomes legal again, those votes that were lost may count again and tip the balance back again

It's very difficult to explain how dogmatic an extreme Basque Nationist is and I know because there is one in my wife's family.Years ago I found some of the things he said very distasteful and we used to have massive arguments so now we avoid talking about it and there is peace at the dinner table.

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Postby lulubel » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:18 pm

katy wrote:Strange that they chose BBC news for this momentous announcement :wtf: Or was everywhere closed for the weekend in Spain :lol: Analysts say it is not clear if it is permanent, lets hope it is.
Every time they reported that there had been no comment yet from the spanish government, Laura shouted at the radio, "What do you expect? It's SUNDAY!"

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