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Made in China

Postby costakid » Mon May 18, 2020 4:14 pm

Ok, On the corona virus thread Lavanda is mentioning about not buying anything made in China. Who is going to stop? I defiantly will carry on because most things we use daily are made in China. I had to point out to a friend the other day that the top quality light bulbs from Phillips of Holland are actually made in China. I have heard it so much recentley from friends that they are boycotting everything Chinese. I will also not stop eating Chinese food.

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Re: Made in China

Postby Devils Advocate » Mon May 18, 2020 4:29 pm

It should be easy to follow and see if the boycott works in Spain. There's a Chino shop on every corner and more open every time we visit. Let's see if they continue to thrive with the tat they sell. I suspect they will. Why buy a Bellotta lump hammer from your local Spanish run family Ferreteria at 16e when you can buy one that "looks" the same from the Chino for 2.50e? Nope, Chinese goods won't be boycotted for long if at all.
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Re: Made in China

Postby El Cid » Mon May 18, 2020 4:33 pm

Costakid, thanks for starting a new thread. It’s going to make interesting reading!

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Re: Made in China

Postby peteroldracer » Mon May 18, 2020 4:47 pm

If everyone in Spain stopped buying Chinese stuff it would be like an ant biting a wooly Mammoth.
It is the massive projects like power stations and mobile phone networks that bring the money in to that evil government. I doubt if one cent of the money that goes into Mr Wings restaurant of Mrs Whoos emporium reaches the Chinese economy. I do think that the Spanish ought to call an immediate halt to the no-fee arrangements that keep so many Chinese stores here though.
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Re: Made in China

Postby gavilan » Mon May 18, 2020 5:00 pm

DA re cheap Chinese lump hammer versus more expensive Spanish one ... the first one will break soon and you will have to buy another ... so 'cheaper' to buy quality ...

as I said before, it's not the country you buy from or boycott, it's about the quality/integrity/care for workers etc

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Re: Made in China

Postby olive » Mon May 18, 2020 6:19 pm

I have said it previously but I suspect that the Chinese emporiums are money laundering outfits. Given their size and footfall at the tills.

If people want to boycott Chinese goods then Chinese restaurants and emporiums aren't the place, governments need to think about the big projects. I expect focus on bolting the stable door now the horse has bolted on own country ability to produce basic goods. Any fool could see this coming and yet cheapest is best, housewife demands lowest price and we have to be fair and invite investment from abroad reigns supreme. What did we expect. How much key infrastructure is now foreign owned?

It was interesting how quickly the Chinese community reacted to the likelyhood of this backlash that Has materialised. My dads local Chinese and takeaway closed before the UK lockdown was announced. Our local Spanish Chinese Emporium gave OH a mask when she was desperately sourcing them for olive pollen season weeks before the current hysteria over masks. It wouldnt surprise me if the mother country put out advice weeks ago to get outlets to mitigate the backlash we are now seeing.

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Re: Made in China

Postby gerryh » Mon May 18, 2020 6:35 pm

I very much doubt if any of you don't have an electrical/ electronic item that wasn't made in China in your home.
A quick look at some of my items
My Casio watch bought in the UK, made in China.
My wife's Kindle, bought in Spain, made in China.
Our Beko washer/ spin dryer bought in Spain, made in China
Her Xiaomi phone bought in Spain, Made in China
My Huawei router supplied by Vodafone in Spain, made in China
Both my Acer laptops bought in Spain, made in China
Many Samsung and iPhones are made in China
If I could be bothered I'm sure I would find many more made in China items.

I often by electronic modules/ components direct from China.
Recently bought an amplifier module for €7.31 direct from China, could have bought it from a Spanish supplier for more than double the price.
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Re: Made in China

Postby Wicksey » Mon May 18, 2020 6:52 pm

As Gerry points out, just about everything is made in China or the parts thereof are made there, even if it is assembled elsewhere. The latest thing I bought was a Rowenta vacuum cleaner and was made in China. It would be great if countries like Britain could once again become major manufacturers of goods but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

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Re: Made in China

Postby Pamela1 » Mon May 18, 2020 7:42 pm

olive wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:19 pm
I have said it previously but I suspect that the Chinese emporiums are money laundering outfits. Given their size and footfall at the tills.

It was interesting how quickly the Chinese community reacted to the likelyhood of this backlash that Has materialised. My dads local Chinese and takeaway closed before the UK lockdown was announced. Our local Spanish Chinese Emporium gave OH a mask when she was desperately sourcing them for olive pollen season weeks before the current hysteria over masks. It wouldnt surprise me if the mother country put out advice weeks ago to get outlets to mitigate the backlash we are now seeing.

Very difficult to boycott buying Chinese goods which people are already pointing out...

The backlash is terrible, it is not the fault of ordinary Chinese people that the virus escaped out of China..It is however not just Chinese people who are on the end of receiving the backlash, it is also people who resemble being Chinese and i'm afraid half the world wouldn't know the difference but it doesn't make it right if they did..My daughter in law who is Japanese has also received her fair share of threats and abuse as she hands people their prescription medication at the pharmacy, this has caused her so much distress that she wishes to return to Japan and it is causing so much anxiety amongst the family.. She worries about our grandchilden and and i worry about all of them...Scary times...

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Re: Made in China

Postby costakid » Mon May 18, 2020 7:45 pm

I may buy a mop or similar from a Chinese bazaar but not tools and definitely nothing electrical. We bought a beach brolly a few years ago from the shop as you enter Torre del Mar. Absolute crap, lasted less than a summer season.

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Re: Made in China

Postby Beachcomber » Mon May 18, 2020 8:39 pm

You get what you pay for as always. I recently had to replace one of the street lamps that illuminate my driveway. I bought the replacement from a well-established specialist lighting shop in the town. They had two which looked identical but one was half the price of the other. The cheaper one was made in China and the more expensive one in Barcelona.

On closer inspection it was obvious that the metal used in the Chinese one was paper thin and very brittle and would undoubtedly have bent over in the first strong wind that came along.

I bought the Spanish one and, so far, it has survived all that the weather has been able to throw at it. All of the other ones were also made in Spain and this is only the second one that I have had to replace in nearly twenty five years.

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Re: Made in China

Postby markwilding » Mon May 18, 2020 8:55 pm

That's absolutely true but that doesn't mean that China produces bad quality stuff ether. On seeing this thread I though I'd check the label in the shirt I had been wearing today. It's a well known American label's tailored brand which I bought in the El Corte Ingles. Where was it made? surprise Surprise. answer China.

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Re: Made in China

Postby El Cid » Mon May 18, 2020 9:22 pm

costakid wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:45 pm
I may buy a mop or similar from a Chinese bazaar but not tools and definitely nothing electrical. We bought a beach brolly a few years ago from the shop as you enter Torre del Mar. Absolute crap, lasted less than a summer season.
Do you feel the same about your Apple products?

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Re: Made in China

Postby BENIDORM » Mon May 18, 2020 9:28 pm

Not buying Chinese products would be a totally pointless exercise,and if all Chinese products were removed from the shelves the shops would be bare.
They produce many levels of merchandise to suit many markets, so if you want better quality everyone should be prepared to pay more and even when you buy more expensive items the chances are that they will have been produced in China.
The West has been trading with China for many 100's of years, the very famous 'Silk Road' was the main trading route and many amazing innovations started in China.
I will continue to support Chinese shops and restaurants and buy Chinese goods and believe me I only buy quality items.
After World War II many people said that they wouldn't buy German or Japanese goods, it didn't last long...
In the early 1960's I visited Hong Kong several times and I walked around the streets and observed complete families sat outside their homes making and assembling all kinds of items, I was impressed at how hard they were prepared to work for very little money.
I started my first business as an 18 year old by buying tea sets from Hong Kong, I paid for the goods and they shipped them back to UK for me, never let me down .
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Re: Made in China

Postby knowal » Mon May 18, 2020 9:45 pm

I find it impossible to boycott China completely, but I attempt to, as I have for about 15 years. Nothing to do with viruses, everything to do with their human rights record, Tiananmen Square, repression of Christians, etc.

I recently had to replace a fridge/freezer and went to Currys/PC World to check the showroom. We looked at every one and eventually decided that we would buy a Samsung. We noted the model number and that it was made in Poland. We then went home and checked to see if we could get it anywhere else, online.
Currys was the cheapest so we ordered that model online. When the unit arrived, we noticed that the label inside said, "Made in China". Samsung must be having that fridge freezer made at 2 locations. As it was exactly the model we ordered we could not really return it.

Another difficult area is computers. I recently ordered this new Dell laptop. It was from Dell UK and the information and ordering process gave the impression it was UK based. I knew that almost every laptop in the world is made in China. I ordered the laptop to my own spec. and sure enough it was built to that spec and shipped directly from China. Companies should be more upfront.

Then there are clothes, where we have more success. We always reject clothes made in China, preferring any other country.
We also tell the shop staff why we are not buying Chinese goods.
We are not the only ones, as there are obvious efforts being made to either hide the country of origin or to make the print so small on the label it is difficult to read.

It's not a racist stance I am taking. It is a stand against an evil regime that represses its people.

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Re: Made in China

Postby costakid » Mon May 18, 2020 10:21 pm

El Cid wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 9:22 pm
costakid wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:45 pm
I may buy a mop or similar from a Chinese bazaar but not tools and definitely nothing electrical. We bought a beach brolly a few years ago from the shop as you enter Torre del Mar. Absolute crap, lasted less than a summer season.
Do you feel the same about your Apple products?

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I know Apple products are assembled in China but under Apples quality control. My original i Mac is 11 years old and still going strong. I think the China shops in Spain mostly sell rubbish but at a price. Buying a product from Apple is different quality completely. Also earlier I was praising the Phillips bulbs that are assembled in China but under the quality control of the Dutch.

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Re: Made in China

Postby Devils Advocate » Mon May 18, 2020 10:25 pm

gavilan wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:00 pm
DA re cheap Chinese lump hammer versus more expensive Spanish one ... the first one will break soon and you will have to buy another ... so 'cheaper' to buy quality ...
Errrr, that was my point.
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Re: Made in China

Postby katy » Tue May 19, 2020 12:27 pm

Strange how there are so many of the Chinese tat shops in Spain, wonder if it is because it gets them a visa? So many restaurants too, A block of 6 shops close to us in Elviria had two Chinese restaurants. One was nearly always empty yet seemed to support two young families with young children.

I am off Chinese food right now, don't trust their ingredients :lol:

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Re: Made in China

Postby peteroldracer » Tue May 19, 2020 12:37 pm

"I am off Chinese food right now, don't trust their ingredients"
What! No more bat in Korean sauce with a monkey brain for starters?
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