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Minimum Wage in Spain

Postby Bongtrees » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:00 pm

Can anyone confirm the current minimum wage in Spain?

Also does anyone know the gross monthly salary for someone on minimum wage contract with 12 salary payments?

If there is a web site I would be gratefull for URL

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Postby ian.wilson » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:41 pm

Most companies start you on a three month temporary contract and will take home about €1000. If they like you and you like them they can then legally give you one more three month temporary contract and up you money to about €1200. Tax and Seguridad Social should be paid on top by the company. Then then have to give you a permanent contract (Indefinido) by law.

So what they say your salary is you take home that is unless they class you as self employed and you then have to pay Social and tax yourself.

The minimum wage in Spain is €600 for a 40 hour week however you get an extra months pay in Summer and an extra month pay at xmas = 15 months pay. This is the law explained to me by Spanish colleagues at my place of work.

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Postby ian.wilson » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:47 pm

Sorry a total of 14 months pay, I cant count for some reason today been a long week but at least it`s friday.

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Postby El Cid » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:52 pm

The official figures for 2005 are 17’10 euros a day, 513’00 euros a month and 7.182’00 euros a year.

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Postby hillybilly » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:53 pm

The official minimum wage in Spain is €512.90 per month, set to rise to €540 in 2006.
http://www.eiro.eurofound.eu.int/2005/0 ... 2203n.html

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Postby Guest » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:29 pm

Ian, no offence to you old lad but I think your colleagues are pulling your leg!!

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Postby hillybilly » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:39 pm

Sorry Sid, posted at same time as you.

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Postby spanish_lad » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 pm

hillybilly wrote:The official minimum wage in Spain is €512.90 per month, set to rise to €540 in 2006.
http://www.eiro.eurofound.eu.int/2005/0 ... 2203n.html
are you having a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am on 60 - 80 € a day.. thats 300€ - 400€ a WEEK...(when i am working) u are talking about 500 odd a MONTH ??? how can they LIVE ? :shock:


17 euros a day?? i wouldnt get out of bed!!!

re: minimum 512€ a month.. you´d get more than that on a pension!!! its no worth working :shock:
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Postby kevin77 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:53 pm

17 euros a day?? i wouldnt get out of bed!!!
Some of the newly arrived fruit pickers in Almeria would take that.
Especially with free digs (polythene roof) included.

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Postby Guest » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:26 pm

Spanish lad, just wondering about your comment "when I am working) exactly how many days a month DO you work??

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Postby Guest » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:28 pm

Sorry, I meant to add, "and what do you do when you're not working?

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Postby spanish_lad » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:38 pm

i work when work is avaliable - i am a labourer / elecricians m8 / plumbers m8 / gardener / work with removal companies etc .. so when there is work avaliable they call me and i go to work... (i could be a 1 man recruitment agency!!!)


in october i worked 24 days.


why do u ask ? i would love a full time job - i´m qualified in lots of things, have good results, have alot of experience...but all thats avaliable is menial jobs like these.
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Postby spanish_lad » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:40 pm

and when i am not working i am always busy - we are reforming our house so there is always something to do. this week i am building a workshop in my garden ;)
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Postby hillybilly » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:55 pm

If someone is "properly" employed then don't forget they receive the extra 2 months payment per annum and their employer will be paying their national insurance, which otherwise for a self employed person would be €240 per month. So, if you factor those in the real monthly wage is nearer to the self employed equivalent of €840 in effect.
Not that I'm saying the above ideal scenario always occurs of course.

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Postby spanish_lad » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:32 am

512.90€ & 240€ = 752.90€ per month.


i see what you are saying, the minimum wage is nearer to 750€ than 512€ because they have to pay ur "stamp" as well.
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Postby Guest » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:02 pm

spanish_lad wrote:i work when work is avaliable - i am a labourer / elecricians m8 / plumbers m8 / gardener / work with removal companies etc .. so when there is work avaliable they call me and i go to work... (i could be a 1 man recruitment agency!!!)


in october i worked 24 days.


why do u ask ? i would love a full time job - i´m qualified in lots of things, have good results, have alot of experience...but all thats avaliable is menial jobs like these.
No special reason, I was just wondering how you manage, I wish you luck getting a full time job, It's nice to hear from someone who's just getting on with it instead of moaning, like some seem to!

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Postby sassy » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:24 pm

[quote="ian.wilson"]Most companies start you on a three month temporary contract and will take home about €1000. If they like you and you like them they can then legally give you one more three month temporary contract and up you money to about €1200. Tax and Seguridad Social should be paid on top by the company. Then then have to give you a permanent contract (Indefinido) by law.

Actually not true; the employer can actually give the employee a maximum of 3 contracts in a 12 month period and then must either give and indefinido contract or terminate employment immeditely.

We employ staff on an initial 3 month and then either extend to 6+3 or 9 month contract before indefinido or termination of contract.

Also regarding the 14 month pay, many employers take this into account at the beginning of a contract and build it into the monthly salary rather than paying 2 months extra, more is added to each months pay.

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Postby Guest » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:12 pm

Sassy, I'm not questioning your integrity or interpretation of the law, but are you sure that last bit's legal, the bit about, building the extra into the monthly salary. As I understood it, you have, by law to pay the extra two months seperately, although I'm not an employer, just seeking clarification because I will soon be employing someone on a permanent basis (if it's cost effective) and need to be clear about this, thanks!

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Postby spanish_lad » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:39 pm

Syd Barrett wrote:
spanish_lad wrote:i work when work is avaliable - i am a labourer / elecricians m8 / plumbers m8 / gardener / work with removal companies etc .. so when there is work avaliable they call me and i go to work... (i could be a 1 man recruitment agency!!!)


in october i worked 24 days.


why do u ask ? i would love a full time job - i´m qualified in lots of things, have good results, have alot of experience...but all thats avaliable is menial jobs like these.
No special reason, I was just wondering how you manage, I wish you luck getting a full time job, It's nice to hear from someone who's just getting on with it instead of moaning, like some seem to!
i hate not knowing where the money is coming from each month...i worry about the next week, let alone the month - i´ve got to pay all the bills.. it leaves me very little to live on. i´m behind on my town hall taxes, i have no animal food left, my car insurance is due soon, and i´m almost out of gas (butane)...

i really need a full time job :( or to work on site every day for 6 months (80€ a day) and i´ll save it :)
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Postby spanish_lad » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:51 pm

Syd Barrett wrote:...building the extra into the monthly salary...

isn´t it like.. a monthly bonus" or something ?
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