90 in 180 days

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby katy » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:51 am

USA scans and fingerprints but they still stamp the Passport.
Always been a queue at Malaga at busy times if flying from the UK. When I used to fly in from Amsterdam no passport control at all.

I guess no one will know how it works until restrictions are ended ( if ever)!

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby El Cid » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:56 am

The consequences of overstaying are pretty severe.

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/c ... ngen-area/

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:30 pm

I have seen a British passport stamped at Malaga on January 3rd with someone coming from the UK. I presume the process of swiping in the machine will also record it somehow electronically.

The practice for non EU passports has been for as long as I can remember to stamp entry to Schengen and the border agent looks for the stamp on a non EU passport upon exit from Schengen.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pm

katy wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:51 am USA scans and fingerprints but they still stamp the Passport.
Always been a queue at Malaga at busy times if flying from the UK. When I used to fly in from Amsterdam no passport control at all.

I guess no one will know how it works until restrictions are ended ( if ever)!
This is because Amsterdam is Schengen. If you fly anywhere within Schengen their is no passport control upon departure or arrival

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Pamela1 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:15 pm

Ah well, what will be will be and it's all to come, years ago it wasn't too bad but then there wasn't the amount of people pouring into airports back then.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby costakid » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:23 pm

I hate the wait at passport control, I like to get through as quickly but the way things are now with travel restrictions I would gladly Q for an hour to be able to get into Spain.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby costakid » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:26 pm

markwilding wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:24 am It's strange that 2 months in, nobody is sure how it will work yet. My guess is passports will not be stamped but in most points of entry they will be scanned and will register entry and exit onto a database.
I am sure we would all know exactly how it works if the usual amount of brits had travelled as in previous years. It just nobody with out TIE or similar can travel through the airports to find out the info and inform us. I think you may be right about electronic entry exit tho.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby ashtondav » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:07 pm

A friend of mine (resident in spain but UK passport) had their passport stamped on re entry after xmas. This was in January sometime, i think.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby El Cid » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:57 pm

I have read reports of this happening, but it is not the correct procedure.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:02 pm

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This is what a stamp for a non EU passport at Malaga looks like

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby elusive » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:11 pm

markwilding wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:24 am It's strange that 2 months in, nobody is sure how it will work yet. My guess is passports will not be stamped but in most points of entry they will be scanned and will register entry and exit onto a database.
It was announced at the end of the year/beginning of jan that passports would be wet stamped. Same as any third country.Residents were complaining about having theirs done aswell as said above. But other third country nationals that are Spanish residents said it has been happening for years

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby El Cid » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:21 pm

It doesn’t really matter. If you are accused of overstaying because of the dates on the stamps, just produce your TIE/residency papers.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby gruff » Tue May 04, 2021 1:19 pm

Interesting point raised by a friend in Spain. He goes to Gibraltar once or twice a year. If on his return into Spain his British passport is stamped and the next time he goes to Gibraltar is six months later will he get pulled up under this?

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby El Cid » Tue May 04, 2021 1:29 pm

If he is a Spanish resident and produces his TIE he can enter and leave at will.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Wicksey » Wed May 05, 2021 9:58 am

gruff wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:19 pm Interesting point raised by a friend in Spain. He goes to Gibraltar once or twice a year. If on his return into Spain his British passport is stamped and the next time he goes to Gibraltar is six months later will he get pulled up under this?
Isn't the border now open under a Schengen type of agreement:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55674148
With the border gone, new arrivals will only be checked if they enter by sea at the port and by air

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 pm

Yes and no.....as I understood it the agreement is one of those that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.

So they haven't completed the final agreement to begin dismantling the Spanish/Gibraltar border. Additionall Additionally the visit Gibraltar website was still saying you need passport etc.

Has anyone been across the border in the last few months that can confirm?

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Wicksey » Thu May 06, 2021 9:47 am

Still looks like a bit of a queue to get out of Gib
https://www.frontierqueue.gi/

I would imagine that they still want to make some sort of check as it was always a big smuggling entry point into Spain.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby katy » Thu May 06, 2021 10:27 am

Sounds about average queue time. Have been in some queues there when 4 lanes are queuing. Also depends if the guards are playing silly bu*gers.

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Wicksey » Thu May 06, 2021 11:32 am

I guess there's not been many people coming here from the UK so far, and for much of the time it's been residents only. Very few flights at the moment so perhaps they haven't worked out what to do with non resident Brits yet!

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Re: 90 in 180 days

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Thu May 06, 2021 11:56 am

Wicksey wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:47 am Still looks like a bit of a queue to get out of Gib
https://www.frontierqueue.gi/

I would imagine that they still want to make some sort of check as it was always a big smuggling entry point into Spain.
That was the whole point of the deal. Gibraltar joins Schengen and has to change duties on alcohol and tobacco etc. So there will be no smuggling between Gib and Spain when the prices are the same. The deal then puts the EU border at the ports and airports of Gibraltar to catch smuggling into the EU.

So when fully implemented there will be nothing to check for at the Gibraltar to Spain border.


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