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Postby Babby » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:59 pm

Hi everyone,

Long time since I posted on this fórum, just wondered if anyone was aware that the Government plan to scrap the conventional trains "Media Distancia" which means the only trains available will be high speed AVE trains - this will affect Malaga - Sevilla, Cordoba, Granada. The original date that this was to happen was 23rd September, but they keep changing the date and it is now 1st December (oh, surprise, after the elections).

What this means is that the Andalucian villages in-between will have no train services. Various platforms have been putting up a fight, along with Mayors from Pedrera, Loja, La Roda, Bobadilla, etc. There was a manifestation in many cities of Andalucía last Saturday 26th Oct in defence of the train (among other protests for salaries, social services, firemen, carers, etc) and if anyone is interested there is a series of walks going on to protest, the next one is on Sunday 3rd November from La Roda to Pedrera. The final walk will be on 14th December. We are hopeful that the decisión can be reversed.

For a train service that is public and social.
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Re: TRAINS

Postby costakid » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:34 pm

They kept that quiet.
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Postby pensure1988 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:58 am

Good Morning

Not too sure where you read this news about the Trains. Can you point me towards the article in question. I would be very worried about the Algecira,Ronda to Granada Train Line if that was the case.

Thank You

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Re: TRAINS

Postby Babby » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:08 pm

David, you have reason to be worried. They are keeping it quiet because they don´t want people to react and protest. Once it is done, it will be very difficult to reverse, that is why all the marches / walks / protests are going on now. IF you go onto the www.renfe.es website, try booking a train after 1st December 2019.

I will find a link for you and attach here

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Postby Babby » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:16 pm

I used to be indecisive but now I´m not so sure.

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Postby Babby » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:19 pm

I used to be indecisive but now I´m not so sure.

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Postby Babby » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm

https://www.diariodesevilla.es/provinci ... 60890.html

So as you can see, the trains will not stop in the little villages, the high speed train only stops in cities, Antequera, Seville, Granada, Malaga, Cordoba etc.
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Postby olive » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:04 pm

There is a certain irony with this. We haven't had local or long distance trains at Loja for about two years. Now they are running again the plan is not to have them.

The ultimate irony is they ran into technical difficulties with the tunnel just near the Loja station and as a result the AVE trains have to crawl through it so a stop at the station wouldn't cost much time

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Postby Babby » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:17 am

This was 2 months ago. Since then they changed the date twice, now from 1st December it will not be possible to use the "media distancia" trains.

As the last bit says, we could campaign to bring the Cercanías trains inland. Pedrera y toda la comarca de la Sierra Sur de Sevilla, existe el peligro de perder el ferrocarril convencional tras el anuncio del gobierno socialista en funciones de quitar el carácter de Obligación de Servicio Público. Nuestro Secretario General ha estado en la asamblea que se ha organizado en Pedrera para dejar claro que desde CGT Andalucía, Ceuta y Melilla, al igual que desde el Sector Ferroviario de la CGT, vamos a luchar sin descanso junto a los vecinos y vecinas de la zona para que esta medida que pretenden llevar a cabo desde este próximo 23 de septiembre se vuelva atrás y que incluso haya más circulaciones ferroviarias, incluyendo la implantación de Cercanías.
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Postby Babby » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:18 pm

LA JUNTA DE ANDALUCÍA VUELVE A PARALIZAR LA REAPERTURA DEL SERVICIO FERROVIARIO ENTRE PEDRERA Y OSUNA
Según declaraciones del Delegado del Gobierno, Lucrecio Fernández, no es posible restablecer el tráfico ferroviario en la Sierra Sur de Sevilla, ya que el acuerdo propuesto por la Consejería de Fomento “impide la cesión de la titularidad de la variante de Aguadulce”.
El convenio contempla, además, que los trámites de reapertura de línea se puedan realizar en paralelo a la negociación de la contraprestación económica “para que no perjudique a los usuarios más tiempo del estrictamente necesario”. Por el contrario, “el Gobierno andaluz vuelve a obstaculizar y a poner pegas ofreciendo un protocolo como solución cuando, en las reuniones bilaterales ya se le ha trasladado que esa opción es inviable porque impide la cesión de la titularidad de los terrenos”, ha criticado Lucrecio Fernández.
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Postby country boy » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:06 pm

On the subject of trains;
Sorry to "borrow" the thread: The Tarjeta Dorada has now been changed to a" touch and go" type . Your old one will not work ( as we found out at the station the other day) You have to re-apply at a mainline, manned, station, pick up the application forms, fill them in and return them with also a current passport type photo and photocopy of some form of ID, Passport, Residents certificate, dni etc. Re-apply, pay another years subs and any time left of your old card will added on. Don't think they like passengers much!!
Back to Media Distance Trains. Do you think they are going to do away with the broad gauge system entirely and this is the beginning? Seems to be pointing that way.

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Re: TRAINS

Postby Babby » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:55 am

CUARTA ETAPA DE LAS MARCHAS EN DEFENSA DEL FERROCARRIL

El salón de plenos del Ayuntamiento de Pedrera acogía la reunión de las Plataformas en Defensa del Tren para organizar la Cuarta Etapa de las marchas en defensa del ferrocarril, que saldrá desde Pedrera hacia Osuna.

La salida será a las 9.30h desde la Estación de Pedrera, donde se pretende hacer un pequeño recorrido a pie por la localidad. Así, se dirigirán hacia Aguadulce para salir hacia Osuna, donde se realizará una nueva Asamblea.

El objetivo de estas marchas es sensibilizar a la población sobre la importancia de un servicio de tren digno que vertebra el territorio andaluz.

Con estas marchas se pretende alcanzar Sevilla, donde el 14 de Diciembre, se celebrará una Gran Manifestación entre la Plaza España y el Palacio de San Telmo para reivindicar ante el Gobierno Central y el de la Junta de Andalucía la importancia de un servicio de ferrocarril digno, público y social.

The 4th march to defend the trains will be this Saturday 16th November at 9.30 from Pedrera Station.
There will be a manifestation in Seville on 14th December in La Plaza España and Palacio de San Telmo
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Postby Screagle » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:11 am

I must admit to panicking when I read this. I sent an email to renfe for clarification but their reply was inconclusive. Anyway, I just checked now on their web-site for the middle of December and can confirm the MD Cadiz Sevilla services are still timetabled including, for me, the all important airport stop.

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Postby vinuela vinny » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:15 am

Hope that someone can update me (we are in the UK at the moment) from local knowledge on the ground.....

I understood that the MD trains - between Malaga and Marchena for example - were to cease operating after 1 December? But they still seem to be timetabled on the RENFE website?

Any thoughts welcomed

Muchos gracias

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Re: TRAINS

Postby maureenscot » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:10 am

I see that Spain is to reduce its AVE train fares. Piloting Madrid to Barcelona from April as not enough folk using them due to air fares being cheaper. Intend to roll out if this is successful

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Re: TRAINS

Postby Babby » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:20 pm

Vinnie, they have changed the date for ceasing the trains yet again, now it Will be 8th January 2020.

https://www.publico.es/sociedad/ave-and ... tS-QwDZ4U0
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Re: TRAINS

Postby vinuela vinny » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:41 am

Thank you Babby

Such a shame that this is happening to these small communities. A minor inconvenience for us, but a very difficult problem for the locals and the tourists. Heigh ho.......

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Postby vinuela vinny » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:41 am

Thank you Babby

Such a shame that this is happening to these small communities. A minor inconvenience for us, but a very difficult problem for the locals and the tourists. Heigh ho.......

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Re: TRAINS

Postby vinuela vinny » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:44 am

Wondered (from afar!) if the trains had stopped on 8 January are predicted?


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