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Postby Maria_Jose » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:18 am

what makes americans stand out in Spain?

Yes, tourists look alike but when a Spanaird meets you... even before you speak, they know if you are an american.
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Postby Grouser » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:34 am

Clothing, plaid pants, that kind of thing, baseball caps, cameras and video cameras strung round neck, talking, often loudly and inappropriately, traveling in herds. These are all, obviously, a particular type of American, a stereotype, some, the more cultured, blend in very nicely.
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Postby detourer » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:20 pm

Fat!

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Postby Grouser » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:54 pm

Further to my earlier post, try the photo realist sculpture of artist Duane Hanson. Just google his name and images. One called 'Los turistos' hits the spot.
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Postby gavilan » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:31 pm

As partner is American we have had a few of his countrymen and women to stay ... in my experience I would say that away from the group they appear very nervous of, well just about everything ... one wore a special purse fastened round his calf hidden by his trousers (to deter robberies), several declined to buy olive oil to take home as gifts because it might leak in their suitcase, some would not eat garlic as their breath would smell, we took a couple to a delightful old farm Hospederia Retamar, near Riogordo, has a bar, pool and restaurant with stunning views ... have to drive up crazy rough track to reach it (to me thats half the fun) their comment was 'great place, shame about the location' , others I think suffered from vertigo as country lanes seemed to freak them out and they were only really happy on the coastal motorway ... they talked endlessly about their huge expensive properties back home .... one even had the nerve to tell me that he had a workshop bigger than our main room! Only my British reserve and polite upbringing kept me back from being very very rude! I am just very grateful that unsurprisingly none has wanted to come back!

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Postby alaninspain » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:33 pm

You might have mentioned that their prisons and lunatic asylums are much bigger than everybody else.

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Postby nevada smith » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:48 pm

personally,
i find the question ridiculous based on the statements that precede it
and the fact that the poster claims to be a teacher...

grouser,
a most general description of about every tourist i've ever seen
including the herds of spanish in their own country...

detourer,
a quick check of the weight stats of comparable countries would show
approximately the same percentage of weight problems...

grouser,
the sculpture is called 'los turistos, in general and not
'los touristos americanos del norte' specifically...

gavilan,
the examples you give of the americans who visited you
are exhibited by just about every 'stranger in a strange land' - each of us
seem to be out of our element when we're out of our element'...

alaninspain,
i've never been able to identify anyone's nationality
based on the size of their prisons or lunatic asylums - and by the way,
all buildings are bigger than people, alan, or maybe you should
run your sentence through the grammar & apostrophe thread...

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Postby silver » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:22 pm

what makes an American stand out in a crowd
His trousers...her hair.
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Postby gavilan » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:33 pm

nevada smith ... dont agree: have had canadians, australians and swedish staying with us and they enjoyed it all!

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Postby Grouser » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:14 pm

Come on Nevada, look at Duane Hanson's work a little more closely. Pretty much all of his sculptures are unmistakably Americans.
The plaid, no-one else wears those funny polyester clothes. Get real.
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Postby Grouser » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:55 pm

On the fat issue I have to agree with you, although I believe statistically America is the world leader, size alone is no indication of nationality.
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Postby detourer » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:01 pm

Ok.....withdraw "Fat".

Try............."Flack Jacket"

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Postby kevin77 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:55 pm

Sorry to 'butt' in, but shouldn't it be los turistas or is he being ironic? :?

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Postby nevada smith » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 pm

gavilan,
"...have had canadians, australians and swedes who enjoyed it all..."
yes, and i've had american guests who've enjoyed it all, know americans who probably won't be back and americans who ain't never gonna come over here -
it's a simple case of some do, some don't and some never will -
anyroad, you'd have a very difficult time convincing me that all candadians, australians, swedes or anyone else for that matter, 'enjoyed it all'...

grouser,
the sculptures are resin versions of celluloid stereotypes ca 1970 -
i haven't seen an american wearing this type of clothing anywhere for over
30 years... and i doubt that you have either...

as for the 'over-weight' issue -
are there more over-weight people in america than in england - yes
are there more people in america than in england - yes
and is about 30% of the population of each country over-weight - yes...

kevin 77,
butt-in, butt-in, you're absolutely correct,
i took the title from grouser's original posting, but that's no excuse
i could have (sic)'d it...

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Postby silver » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:21 am

nevada smith
'enjoyed it all'...

why not..if they had a good "anfitrion " :)
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Postby gavilan » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:00 am

Nevada smith ... yes of course you are right, people are individuals and as such react differently in different situations ... but if I remember rightly the original post was about what makes Americans stand out ... and for me it was those experiences I recounted which made my American visitors stand out in my memory ...
Silver also referred to a good anfitrion ... so how do I be a good host to people who are clearly anxious about a lot of things here? what could I have done to make them feel better and more confident?

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Postby nevada smith » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:50 am

yes, the original post asked what makes americans stand out
(a very 'general' query as to how one 'identifies' americans 'on the street')
you gave examples of people, known to be americans, who guests in your home
(a very 'specific' response of descriptions and anecdotes)

and i was definitely not judging or criticizing your abilities as a host -
a guests' enjoyment depends as much on the guest as on the host... perhaps more, as i've always thought that any relationship should be at least 51, 51...

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Postby silver » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:15 am

the original post asked what makes Americans stand out
I for one would know the question by reading this answer.
Clothing, plaid pants, that kind of thing, baseball caps, cameras and video cameras strung round neck, talking, often loudly and inappropriately
nevada smith..this may not describe you yourself but definitely fits ..made in USA.
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Postby Grouser » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:36 am

OK Nevada you don't like 'tourists 1' as a representation, try 'tourists 2' and if you don't like that either try using your imagination to update it to tourist three or four. Duane can't do it for you unfortunately as he died ten years ago, but I don't think it's too big a challenge, as you can see from the time lapse between 1 and 2 styles don't change that much.
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Postby nevada smith » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:16 pm

i know of 5 'tourists' by hanson,
his works are parodies of middle-class americans -
parodies by exaggeration - streaked with sarcasm...

the sculptures are no more definitive of a nationality than
your descriptions of 'everyone / no-one'...


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