Rain again

[janda_grant2]

OK it's been raining since sbout 10am this morning - result flooded roads.olive groves like mangrove swamps and no TV picture. Someboby tell me thisd isn't a repeat of last year - please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Devils Advocate]

Well we're making our first trip over in a long while next week..................so count on rain and every other meteorological nasty the weather gods have at their disposal to rain down on Andalucia for the next month or so

[anyroads]

Alas,

Maybe the weather has settled into a pattern all over Europe.

In the UK, it is predictated we will have lots of snow again in the winter, so maybe even lots of rain again in Spain over the winter / spring.

anyroads

[Jool]

Monday - 80% chance heavy rain all day........

[ajtg1952]

The main problem with the weather this year, is high pressure has not dominated the Mediterranean, as it normally does each summer.

At the moment there are a series of very deep depressions moving slowly, north east, across the North Atlantic. The fronts generated by these depressions are between two and three thousand miles long and are covering Spain. The front that is providing the rain today is a cold front, so the rain should stop soon.

When high pressure is dominant over the Mediterranean or north Africa, these fronts fizzle out before they get any where near us.

If you want to get down to the fundamental problem, you have to look at the European Gulf Stream. At the moment its passing NE over Spain then turning NW off the coast of Ireland. The Gulf stream should be much further west, in the mid Atlantic, travelling North by North East, before turning east just south of Iceland. This allows high pressure to build off the Azores and give Spain drier conditions.

When will stability return. I personally don't think it will, so get the Wellington boots and umbrellas out.

[katy]

There are some days of heavy rain most Octobers. I remember because it always seemed to rain when family came out at half-term. Infact about 5 years ago it rained nearly every day for ten days they were out. The nicest thing about Autumn rain is that it gives new life to the garden, almost like a second spring.

[janda_grant2]

Huh - and the weeds grow at a rate of metres per hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So looks like I'm not going to get my washing dry before Tuesday then!

[El Cid]

If you want to get down to the fundamental problem, you have to look at the European Gulf Stream

Don't you mean the Jet Stream?

If the Gulf Stream was passing over Spain it really would be wet!

Sid

[ajtg1952]

Absolutely correct, El Cid, I do mean the Jet Stream.

[jrhartley]

oh please what a fuss about a bit of rain

[julian]

jr,as brits we are obliged to complain about the weather,it´s what we are good at.... up to now it´s been too hot..and now on the first day of rain and we are moaning that we can´t dry the washing, we could of course have waited till after the rain to do the washing, but then what would we have to gripe about?

[hiker]

I had a couple of poor souls out hiking today on a 22 km trek around the Frigiliana/Acebuchal area today.
Weather forcast was for plenty of cloud with "some" rain, heavy localised.
It was localised all over us. The last 4 of the 6 hours were spent in torrential downpours with near zero visibility.
I was glad to get back to Antonio's bar in Acebuchal for a hot coffee and cake.

[Mowser]

This is the start of the Nerja Feria. It ALWAYS rains for the Nerja Feria.

[janda_grant2]

jr - I don't mind a bit of rain - I just don't want it to rain for months like it did last winter. (But then if the gulf stream passed over, that was probably why!!!!!!!!!!) And Julian is quite right it is obligatory to moan about the weather - whether you are British or Spanish (who can winge as well as we can, and also seemed to be quite "surprised" that the summers here are hot and the winters are cold!)Just wait till it does this..............................................................

[Mowser]

[lulubel]

So, what's causing the Jet Stream to go the wrong way? Are we talking melting icecaps here or something less catastrophic?

[El Cid]

It just happens that way. There are some conditions that affect it but it is all rather complicated.

Last winter was unusual as the Jet Stream spent most of its time over North Africa rather than Scotland!

The position of the Jet Stream (just very strong high altitude winds) affects the course of the Atlantic depressions that form every few days all year round and bring rain across the Atlantic.

If it is in its usual place it dumps all the rain on the UK. If it is further south, like last winter, the depressions come much further south and affect Spain.

Often when this happens you get an area of high pressure over the UK which gives them good weather while it rains in Spain.

As a general rule in winter, if it's good in the UK it will be rubbish in Spain. Look at this weekend - 23c in the UK and sunny - cold and wet down here.

Next week the remains of hurricane Otto are heading this way. High pressure over the UK will push it this way. Luckily by the time it arrives it should have petered out completely - we hope!

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Sid

[julian]

last year was also unusual as we hardly had a drop of rain until mid-december, it was the dryist, warmist autumn I can remember here.

[El Cid]

What is interesting is that the previous really wet winter was in 1995/6 and it rained continually from the beginning of December until well into March - just like last winter.

The normal wet period is in the last quarter rather than the early part of the year.

Sid

[ken2]

I had two good laughs today driving in the rain, we (my cousin and i) was just passing the Tamisa Hotel on the coin rd, when infront of us we spotted a chap on a scooter in front of us with a brolly in one hand whilst he was driving, ha ha it went inside out, but he knew what to do, he pointed it into the wind, ha ha my cousin got out his new phone, he had never used the camera part of it, he shouts great got it just as we turn into our apartments, this is the second laugh, when he looked at the picture ,ha ha ha he had taken a picture of his own face ha ha ha he had reversed it, ha ha great ,it brightened the day, shame i would of loved to had posted the picture on here for you lot,