Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Beachcomber » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:18 am

If you were able to complete the 210 then you are registered with AEAT. If you were not registered you would have received an error message.

If you have a receipt from the bank showing that you have paid and the money has been deducted from your account make sure you keep copies of everything and do nothing more.

If you subsequently receive a query from AEAT you can produce all the documents with proof of payment. Any administrative error is the responsibility of the bank. As far as you are concerned you have paid.

When you generate the form it is recorded in the AEAT IT system. When you pay at the bank the payment is automatically linked to the declaration. You don't need to send anything anywhere.

The record of the payment should show on the link given by Enrique but this can take some time to appear, sometimes never. As long as you have a receipted copy of the form and proof of payment that is all you need.

The next time you prepare the tax return use your digital signature from the start. There is a particular form for this. It is exactly the same but you access it with your digital signature. The form is automatically linked to your bank account and the payment is made. However, this will only work if your bank account was originally opened with your NIE number rather than your passport number.
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby trcrod » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:39 pm

Hello again and thanks for a couple of helpful responses.

I've found how to create another form for payment from a UK bank (I think I did this incorrectly last time). I made a payment a couple of days ago (just testing with a few euros from my UK Euro account). The payment hasn't been returned this time but my full amount owed is still showing as a debt on the tax website (I found where to check this).

Q. Can anyone advise how long a payment might take to show as reducing my debt?


Alternatively, I have also seen how to create a form stating payment in cash (ie, just don't give an IBAN).

Q. Can I pay in ANY bank branch even though I don't have an account (I'm hoping to be out there over Christmas)?
Q. Do I actually have to pay in CASH or will they accept a UK creditcard or other form of payment?


Thanks again for helping...finding my way around the tax website great now but the payment is still a concern :(

I asked my agent and unfortunately they only seem to offer a form and payment service not just a payment service.

Thanks,
Chris.

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Enrique » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:12 pm

Hi trcrod,
"The payment hasn't been returned this time but my full amount owed is still showing as a debt on the tax website (I found where to check this). "

Which section on the AEAT site did you find this link :?:
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby trcrod » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:37 pm

Hi Enrique,
See here: https://www.agenciatributaria.gob.es/AE ... icio.shtml
select 'Paying, deferring and consulting debts'
select 'Debt Query'
then I chose 'Access certified or ELECTRONIC ID CARD' my NIE was filled in, I clicked 'To Accept' and arrived at a Debt Ratio page which seems to show what I owe as being the calculated tax on form 210.

Hope that helps.


Any help with how I can make payment from the UK still appreciated.
- Struggling to see a Spanish bank that I can easily open online (without an NIE card, but I do have an NIE number on paper).
- No evidence that the 'test' 6 euro payment I sent has arrived against my debt as above.
- Not clear how I can make payment IF I can come over and get into a Spanish bank (this may not be possible given current covid situation and depends whether I can pay in ANY bank even without an account).
-m Alternatively if anyone can recommend an agent who would be able to make payment on my behalf (I've asked my current agent, Spanish Tax Forms, and seems they don't do 'payment only' service).

Thanks all,
Chris.

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Enrique » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:31 pm

Hi trcrod,

Many thanks for the info..........
Not clear how I can make payment IF I can come over and get into a Spanish bank
I have in the past rolled up to a Bank with Cash and Paid..........it may still work .
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Beachcomber » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:10 pm

The possibility of actually paying in a bank varies not just from bank to bank but from branch to branch. If one will not let you do it try another. Unicaja has the facility to pay by cash machine. It does not endorse the form but you get a separate proof of payment slip. You do not need to have an account at the bank to do this. Other banks may have the same facility.

It is very unlikely that you will be able to open a Spanish bank account without visiting a branch. In order to do so you may need copies of UK tax returns, P60 etc. It is best to scan as much as you can into your phone.

Your efforts to get to Spain may well be thwarted by the recent release of the latest covid variant.
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby trcrod » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:31 pm

Comments appreciated...maybe not the answers I wanted but at least I'm much clearer on my options. Thanks again :)

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby erowland » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Hi I have completed Modelo 210. I do not have a digital certificate. Yesterday I paid half of the tax in respect of my contribution (joint owners) through my Irish Euro account. I downloaded the completed forms to my computer.
Today I completed Modelo 210 in respect of my wife's contribution and used a Spanish bank in Spain to pay the tax. Alas the screen timed out after I had completed the exercise but before I had downloaded the completed form to my computer.
How can I check that I have in fact successfully paid the tax. So far neither amounts have been taken from my accounts.
How can I access the Form 210 which I did not download this morning

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Enrique » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:55 pm

Hi erowland,
I can confirm that there is a 10 minute session timeout on the Form 210.

Where exactly did you get up to.....did you have the Instructions and the Form pages up on your screen as it timed-out :?: .......

If so there is no way to view/download the Form.

Did you not EXPORT your Data :?: ..........had you done that you could have pulled up a New form, Imported and changed your Payment method to CASH, remove your Bank details and gone through and Printed copies off for your Records.

It can take some time to Register on your Bank account.....just keep checking....... :idea:

Other Members may have some indication of the time scale doing it your way............
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Beachcomber » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:00 pm

The timescale for payment depends on whether you opt to pay it on the last day of the year or to pay immediately.
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby pengwynne » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:22 pm

It's got to be said.....Why do some people leave it to the last minute to fill-in the forms and put themselves under pressure?
You have either 6 months or 12 months in advance to do this.
My advice is to get yourself a Spanish bank account with online facilities and an electronic signature....it is not difficult to do.

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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby Beachcomber » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:08 pm

And best to use direct payment rather than domiciliación then you can see immediately whether it has worked.
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Re: Comments and queries re FAQ for Non-resident income tax

Postby pengwynne » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Yes! I go online and obtain my NRC number by paying the correct Modelo 210 tax through my Spanish bank.
Then I enter the electronic portal on the AEAT website.
Enter all the necessary details on the Modelo 210 form, including the NRC number obtained from my bank.
Validate it then send.
Return to the home page on the AEAT website and click on "My Files" (in English).
Confirmation of the NRC payment and copies of the completed Modelo 210 form will be found.


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