Police powers

[spanish hopes]

Sorry grouser you will have to go cruising elsewhere, I'm happily married.

[Faire d'Income]

Naive posibly, honest definately, what do you have to hide. The human rights guerillas are much more of a danger to the safety of the human race than for an honest man to carry ID.

I don't have anything to hide but I have bothered to do a little research on the whole process and not only is it unworkable and expensive it's likely to be the Government's next white elephant given their inability to implement and bring any large scale IT project in on time or budget.

The level of information that the Government wants to include far exceeds and other similar system in the world and as has been proven time and time again in countries which have ID cards - it neither stop nor deters terrorists or criminals. Indeed, the potential for identity theft is only increased with this level of information and you only have to look at other countries to see this in operation.

If you'd read my post above, you'd realise how ludicrous the proposed system is due to the card not being a mandatory possession and at least initially, a voluntary process.

If you'd give me one example where an ID card would prevent terrorism I'd be prepared to reconsider but you can't. It wouldn't have stopped the bombings in London as they were British nationals and it wouldn't have stopped September 11th as all of those terrorists were allowed into the country on working visas.

So, can you explain to us how ID cards are such a good thing and how they are going to stamp out terrorism and crime?

[Grouser]

Spanish Hopes, Not trying to score dear just wanted to see your blue hair. Guess I'll just have to hack into your file when you get your ID card.

[MaggieMay]

[spanish hopes]

Spanish Hopes, Not trying to score dear just wanted to see your blue hair. Guess I'll just have to hack into your flies when you get your ID card.

You aren't hacking into my Flies!!!! I told you I'm happily married.

[Grouser]

Dear Mr. Hopes,
We know, of course that you have nothing to hide, except, perhaps your blue hair (from your dyslexic quote of me I am reluctantly forced to conclude that the blueness is not just confined to the hairs on your head) but you still avoid expressing an opinion on having your personal details on a system that experts assert will be vulnerable to abuse and may actually make identity theft easier.

[spanish hopes]

Because it doesn't bother me one way or the other. Expert opinion can be found for anything and everything so I will not quote 'Experts' in order to try to score brownie points and win a daft argument.
Identity Theft, if someone wants to be me they must be pretty sad and definately hard up.
Vulnerable to Abuse, we all are, as long as there are abusive people out there (present company accepted of course).

[Blubba]

Dear Mr. Hopes,
We know, of course that you have nothing to hide, except, perhaps your blue hair (from your dyslexic quote of me I am reluctantly forced to conclude that the blueness is not just confined to the hairs on your head) but you still avoid expressing an opinion on having your personal details on a system that experts assert will be vulnerable to abuse and may actually make identity theft easier.

Grouser, Spanish Hopes is devoid of opinion, I doubt he knows what the word means, I have never, ever, read an original opinion or thought from him, he has rhetoric (Spanish, look it up) and sarcasm and some very old and tired quotes ripped off from other scources, but opinions, for those you first need to be able to correlate your thought process, never happen!

[spanish hopes]

*yawn* said,
Potty Pannu said,
syd barret said,
Stantheman said,
Cannydanny said,
Midnight rambler said,
Blubber said,

I have never, ever, read an original opinion or thought from him, he has rhetoric (Spanish, look it up) and sarcasm and some very old and tired quotes ripped off from other scources

Read back through some of their posts to get my gist alan. You should have them saved on your computer. Look in the file which is called 'Original though over used quotes.' it is a shared file, shared by all of your personnae.

[Blubba]

This hurts me very much but I have to apologise to "Spanish hopes" I have often thought him to be dishonest (as most prison officers are, otherwise how does all the contraband end up in the jails) but today I am proud of him for telling the truth, quote, If someone want to be me, they must be sad and definitely (that's with an "i" Spanish, remember the spell checker) hard up, unquote!!

[spanish hopes]

Thanks alan , your constant confirmation of your multi ID's saves me a lot of work. It's much better when you keep on outing yourself.

[Blubba]

Thanks alan , your constant confirmation of your multi ID's saves me a lot of work. It's much better when you keep on outing yourself.

What confirmation, and of what, could you please point it out to us!

[spanish hopes]

to us

Not us alan YOU. everyone else can see through your incompetent attempts at re inventing yourself. You apparently can't, that is why you repeat yourself in the same style the same maner using the same words, everytime you get a new login ID. We are not clever in being able to spot you, you are just too stupid to hide.

[Blubba]

to us

Not us alan Just me. everyone else can see through your incompetent attempts at re inventing yourself. You apparently can't, that is why you repeat yourself in the same style the same maner using the same words, everytime you get a new login ID. We are not clever in being able to spot you, you are just too stupid to hide.

I'm sorry for my confusion, I didn't realise you we're speaking on behalf of everyone on the forum!!

[spanish hopes]

Read it again dimwit, you referred to US as if you were speaking for the forum instead of just yourself and your teeny tearaway gang. You never were much good at twisting words and when you steal a phrase to use here and there you normally get it wrong. Can assume from your kamikaze tirade that you have another exotic ID in waiting? I will get my neice to look through. She is the only child of 3 that I know so she should spot you in about three postings.

[Blubba]

Read it again dimwit, you referred to US as if you were speaking for the forum instead of just yourself and your teeny tearaway gang. You never were much good at twisting words and when you steal a phrase to use here and there you normally get it wrong. Can assume from your kamikaze tirade that you have another exotic ID in waiting? I will get my neice to look through. She is the only child of 3 that I know so she should spot you in about three postings.

I have read it again and it clearly states that "Everyone else can see etc, etc et boring cetera, as I said I didn't realise you were speaking on behalf of the forum, they "everyone else" should be very gratefull to you for commenting on their behalf, enter Maggie, Bored to tears etc, remember to log out first though!

[spanish hopes]

What confirmation, and of what, could you please point it out to us!

See what I mean fool.

Time to bring out your next clown suit alan, this one wore out more quickly than usual.

[Faire d'Income]

Because it doesn't bother me one way or the other. Expert opinion can be found for anything and everything so I will not quote 'Experts' in order to try to score brownie points and win a daft argument.

Err, if it doesn't bother you one way or the other and you're not bothered about winning a daft argument then what have your last five posts been about then?

[spanish hopes]

Nothing at all to do with the original thread to be fair. Just retaliation against a multi ID troll who would possibly be restricted from his actions if he had been given an ID card and had his DNA registered when he first joined.

[Grouser]

Spanish Hopes, I must say I hadn't seen it as a daft argument. I had thought we were exploring the pros and cons of ID cards. If you don't take on board expert opinion, when you come to form your own ideas in areas where you don't have specialist expertise youself, how on earth can you make an informed decision as to what you think is right?