Vaccine war with EU

For tips, tricks and secrets on good health, beauty, fitness and sport join this forum.
Paddy Pumpkin
Resident
Posts: 895
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm
Location: Madrid

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:54 pm

AZ signing their own death warrant in Europe bit by bit

The head of the Irish health servive has said that their confidence with AZ has been 'rocked'

I can't imagine any other health service in Europe thinks any differently and the stock market agrees. FTSE up 0.17% today, AZ down 2.52%.
Overall AZ is just shy of 50% down on the market now since last October

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:13 pm

Perhaps they will allow exports then and stop trying to pinch ours.

Free at Last
Resident
Posts: 1826
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Velez-Malaga

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Free at Last » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:27 pm

In view of the investigation being opened into the possibility of the AZ vaccine being linked to people who have received it developing blood clots (the same issue which caused Austria to withdraw a batch of the vaccine a few days ago), Spain has decided today to postpone making a decision about whether to approve the use of the AZ vaccine for the over 55s.

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2021-03-11/ ... -anos.html

Paddy Pumpkin
Resident
Posts: 895
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm
Location: Madrid

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:00 pm

katy wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:13 pm Perhaps they will allow exports then and stop trying to pinch ours.
I am not sure who 'ours' is. Do you mean the supply for Spain entirely or just Andalucia?

AZ will get away for now and sell their vaccine. But the next time someone needs a few hundered million paracetamols per year guess who they won't be buying from. I wonder how many UK jobs that places at risk. I would be interested to see some links to the websites that are recommending buying them as I would like to read what I am missing.

Pamela1
Resident
Posts: 1863
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:30 am
Location: Co Durham/ Granada Province

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Pamela1 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:44 pm

From what i read its 30 cases out of 5 million.Considering the amount of people who need to be vaccinated there won't be a vaccine out there that won't be throwing up some serious side effects in a small minority of people.

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:05 am

There will be more than UK jobs lost if AZ flops. It is being manufactured in 15 countries. America stated today that no AZ jabs will go to Europe until their vaccination programme is complete.

Paddy Pumpkin
Resident
Posts: 895
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm
Location: Madrid

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:23 am

I am not sure who 'ours' is. Do you mean the supply for Spain entirely or just Andalucia?

I would be interested to see some links to the websites that are recommending buying them as I would like to read what I am missing.

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:55 am

The EMA says there is no evidence against AZ so what's going off!

El Cid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 15486
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:42 pm
Location: La Herradura, Costa Tropical, Granada

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby El Cid » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:11 pm

I have deleted a number of posts as they were off topic.

Please keep to the subject

Sid

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:59 pm

Sos. I think someone is looking for tips :wink:

Some of you may have read this but it is interesting.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2021 ... first.html

User avatar
costakid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5147
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:55 am
Location: malaga este

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby costakid » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:54 am

El Cid wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:11 pm I have deleted a number of posts as they were off topic.

Please keep to the subject

Sid
As usual

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm

After rows with Australia, UK and a quieter complaint against USA the EU is now fighting amongst themselves. From the Telegraph.

Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, Bulgaria and Latvia have called for a EU summit to discuss "huge disparities" in the distribution of vaccines, according to a letter published today.

Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz suggested Friday that some members of the European Union may have signed "secret contracts" with vaccine companies to receive more doses than they were entitled to as per EU-wide agreements.

olive
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 3927
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:13 pm
Location: Poniente, Granada

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby olive » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:08 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56361840

Spain is one country in the EU looking to produce Sputnik vaccine. I wonder if jabbed with Sputnik you will be able to have a so called vaccine passport?

User avatar
costakid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5147
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:55 am
Location: malaga este

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby costakid » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:44 pm

That would be last on my list. I had Pfizer and wife had AZ, didn’t hesitate but no way would I have the Russian one.

User avatar
costakid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5147
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:55 am
Location: malaga este

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby costakid » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:45 pm

More and more countries are running scared of the AZ version.

katy
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 13364
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby katy » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:51 pm

And they are all in the EU except Iceland :shifty:

User avatar
costakid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5147
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:55 am
Location: malaga este

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby costakid » Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:33 am

And Norway who were the 1st to raise doubts about the AZ version. I am hopeful they will all be eating humble pie shortly.

Free at Last
Resident
Posts: 1826
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Velez-Malaga

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Free at Last » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:08 am

katy wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:51 pm And they are all in the EU except Iceland :shifty:
It must have passed me by that Thailand, Indonesia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are all in the EU - they kept that quiet! All have suspended use of the Astra Zeneca vaccine temporarily, although in the case of Thailand it was only for a few days.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/1 ... id-vaccine

User avatar
costakid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 5147
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:55 am
Location: malaga este

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby costakid » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:41 am

Free at Last wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:08 am
katy wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:51 pm And they are all in the EU except Iceland :shifty:
It must have passed me by that Thailand, Indonesia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are all in the EU - they kept that quiet! All have suspended use of the Astra Zeneca vaccine temporarily, although in the case of Thailand it was only for a few days.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/1 ... id-vaccine
Apparently sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

Free at Last
Resident
Posts: 1826
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Velez-Malaga

Re: Vaccine war with EU

Postby Free at Last » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:58 am

costakid wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:41 am
Apparently sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
Thank you so much for letting me know, I had never heard that saying before. Did you make it up yourself?


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests