NO Where is Perfect

[katy]

Continue with studying in Ireland then finish by a total immersion for 4 weeks. I know people who have a good pass at A Level and cannot converse well. Also many of the language schools around here are...questionable!

[Campo Kenny]

Yo learned espanol de la gratis cd's a la Sunday Mail.
They had mi habla-ing fluent espanol en cinqo semanas.
Yo listened para un hour per dias in mi coche and para about tres hours per dias in mi casa.

It travachoed para mi y ahora yo is fluent.

Adios,

Kenny

[Chrissie]

Kenny......


That gave me a laugh

[spanish hopes]

I'm impressed that you also speak Spanish to such a high standard Chrissie and were able to completely understand El kenny, did you have the same cd's?

[frank]

This is a really good audio magazine (bi-monthly). It's aimed at advanced speakers, but if you take it slowly it should be OK. I think they'll send you a sample to try.

http://www.champs-elysees.com/products/ ... fault.aspx

Agree, I think it's one of the finest Spanish learning tools, it's an excellent product. I had it for a few years, but the delivery was all over the place, you could wait months for your CD. I used to complain, and they'd send me another old CD to keep me quiet. I think the first 12 month subscription I had, took about 20 moths before I got my 6 CD's. It was taken over by someone, and I believe it is now back on course. I'm very tempted to order it again. It's definitely not for a beginner though! But the content is always up to date, relevant, and interesting.

[katy]

Kenny I am impressed I didn't realise you were fluent. ¡Enhorabuena!

[Campo Kenny]

Si, yo esta mucho fluent, pero sometimes yo no comprende hombres de outside Andalucia.
EL cd's esta worked wonders para mi y me esposa. Esta mucho easy para us to blend in con the locals y become mucho gusto'd by todo.

Ahora we fully intiendo espanol we are travachoing on our Francais y our greek.

If mucho mas Inglis come over aqui we will be calling it a dias and *beep* off. Y quite fancy uno de these places donde el propeteria is cheap

To all of tu, esta worth compra-ing some cd's y following mi example.

Hasta Back,
Kenny

[katy]

You do it so well, I bet you really are quite competent.

[Chrissie]

I'm impressed that you also speak Spanish to such a high standard Chrissie and were able to completely understand El kenny, did you have the same cd's?

Oh Spanish..............
What I wouldn't give to have Kenny's facilidad para words y otra things tambien. Pero the CDs are muy caras y es difiseal to be fluente

[Campo Kenny]

I no tengo got a clue que your habla-ing about.

Yo cannot habla much aqui hoy. Esta neccessario para mi to finito el tiling in mi nuevo abierto plan cocina

Gracias a bunch

Kenny

[Chrissie]

[hiker]

Yo learned espanol de la gratis cd's a la Sunday Mail.
They had mi habla-ing fluent espanol en cinqo semanas.
Yo listened para un hour per dias in mi coche and para about tres hours per dias in mi casa.

It travachoed para mi y ahora yo is fluent.

Adios,

Kenny

The scary thing is I actually understand it.




The accent thing is something I have heard of and will try to take into account.

howya hiker

have you heard of the the Instituto Cervantes in Lincoln Place, D2?

we're learning Spanish there at the moment, I can highly recommend the place and when you join you have access to the library - learning material, DVD's books etc.

My wife will start there this week but I cannot do any day class because of work and because I live a bit outside Dublin, I'm not that keen on travelling thru the cold, dark, winter nights to do night classes. Tried it before and I did'nt like it.
There is a very nice young lady from Bolivia living in my village who is giving Spanish lessons in my house.
€7.50 per hour which is about €1 more expensive than Cervantes but its a one-to-one session so I'm going to have a go at that.

Do Bolivians have an accent?

[wendyakemp]

Kenny, I went to W H Smith every day for over a week to get those blo*dy C.Ds. That was over a year ago and i'm still only on c.d. no. 2. I listen again and again and it still sounds like double dutch (or spanish).

[BENIDORM]

I bought a Spanish Linguaphone course over 30 years ago, I've still got it and I'm still only on to part 3.
It really does help having at least some basic Spanish communicating skills, before arrival in Spain, but it will depend where you go, I have great difficulty in having conversations with the locals in our village, but no trouble in Madrid.
Moving to Spain doesn't have to be too big 'a deal', but as everyone keeps saying ..be careful, and make sure that you keep some money in reserve....

[frank]

€7.50 per hour which is about €1 more expensive than Cervantes but its a one-to-one session so I'm going to have a go at that.

Do Bolivians have an accent?

That is really cheap! £5 an hour!! We had a girl from Barcelona, and she used to get £30 for an hour and a half! Sign up quick before she puts her prices up
Yes, they have an accent, and it ain't of mainland Spain. You'll probably end up with a South American accent, but you'll be easily understood They use "el seseo" (and in parts of Andalucia) which just means sounding their "s's" differently. Beer, for example, would normally be pronounced something like "therbetha" (the "s" and the "z" is almost a "th" sound) They would pronounce something like "servesa" "Asento" instead of "athento" por accent (acento). It's not a problem, just that you are bound to imitate her accent. Some words are different, carro instead of coche for example, but again, no big problem.
I had a Chilean lady teacher for a while, and I thought it was a lovely accent. I attend a class with a guy that has learnt his Spanish in South America, and apart from us having different accents, we understand each other perfectly.

[Campo Kenny]

Wendy, my OH queued for them too. Just persevere with them and you will become word perfect like myself.
Now I now speak perfect Spanish I can honestly say I wouldn't worry too much if you or anyone else can't pick the language up..........it doesn't matter

If you get stuck.........say someone short changes you, or someone gives you a nice present and you don't know what to say, or someone slips over on their flip-flop and go's rolling down the street, just say "oi, oi oiiiiiiiiii!" with the emphasis on the last oiiiiiiiii!
It works wonders and is really the only phrase you need over there. The locals will assume you're from the next pueblo and born and bred Spanish

I use it all the time, and although now fluent rue the wasted hours listening to those CD's.

Kenny

[Valencia_Paul]

That is really cheap! £5 an hour!!...

Frank - you are mixing up "s" and "c". In Spanish an "s" is always pronounced as such. With ceceo pronunciation the "c" before i or e becomes more like "th" and the "z" is always "th". With seseo pronunciation as in South America and parts of spain the c before i or e and the z is pronounced similar to s. Maybe it was just a typo on your part.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceceo

[hiker]

Yes,I thought that was very reasonable. I have my second lesson tonight at 7pm.
So instead of treking into town after work and eating a bag of chips in the carpark, I can go home, have a meal and be brain-ready to learn.
Cool, eh!

[dubliner74]

My wife will start there this week but I cannot do any day class because of work and because I live a bit outside Dublin, I'm not that keen on travelling thru the cold, dark, winter nights to do night classes. Tried it before and I did'nt like it.

I know where yer coming from, I'm lucky enough to work literally round the corner from the Institute so can finish work and head straight there and Donabate is a bit out of town - I'm actually heading to a wedding at the Waterside Hotel on Saturday.

[katy]

Unless I have read it wrong, Franks post sounds about right. Not an expert on S. American though.