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Farmers protests

Postby olive » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:43 am

It has been murder trying to get sround. We were in Antequera on Tuesday right next to the blockade of the distribution centre estate and watched the dual carriageway grind to a halt. On the return journey home ( via back roads to get on the A92) we found we couldnt get off the motorway! Got a 4 hour journey tomorrow.

I have some sympathies with the farmers. Having to use less fertiliser, fuel up , prices received for produce low. Cheaper produce available from say Morocco produced with lower fitosanitary rules. Maybe 15% less income compared to just a few years ago.

On the other hand all the farmers we know are doing all right.Got money for holidays, new cars, tractors, the latest labour saving gadgets. The only ones that I think are suffering are the ones not at the demonstrations as they cannot afford to go. Eg 400 productive olive trees.

What do you think?

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby costakid » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:39 am

Not sure about Spain as i do not know any Spanish farmers personally but in the UK farmers have always pleaded poverty but you never see a poor farmer. Always have the latest equipment and a new Land Rover parked outside the big farm house. I do feel sorry for milk farmers whose prices are dictated by the likes of Tesco etc.

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby Trooperman » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:38 am

I joined the motorway just north of Antequera on Tuesday (that's where I live) because I had a hospital appointment. The motorway was virtually empty as people were made well aware, in advance, by social media amongst other means, that disruption was likely. We also knew this and, with local knowledge, avoided the blockade of Mercadona's distribution depot. This approach road to the industrial estate where Mercadona is located is also the approach road to the regional hospital from the motorway.
We were thus not affected, but we know of others who were.
Having said all this, I side with the farmers and against big government who interfere too much, some of it virtue signalling......and it doesn't get much bigger than Brussels.
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Re: Farmers protests

Postby Pamela1 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:02 pm

Here in the UK there was a time when no farmer was poor....Nowadays the only rich farmers are those who have lots of land and farm big....The rest are struggling and eventualy there won't be any small farms because they will have been bought and eaten up by the big boys...I guess it will go that way in Spain also...Back to the big land owners..

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby Wicksey » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:12 pm

I've heard that traffic around El Ingenio and Torre del Mar has been at a standstill today. Can't seem to find any current information as I have to go that way later. Maybe it will have finished by 6:30pm when it starts to get dark?

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby Lavanda » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:05 am

We have protests in Extremadura, too. The farmers have all the latest kit but share it. Four farmers will share a tractor, for example, and does anyone know why a tractor is upwards of €40,000??? During the tomato harvest here, the farmers work around the clock but, again, share equipment. They are not poor but they are not rich.

Let me see ... the Panama Canal is not working very well because of low water levels and the Red Sea is a war zone. Grain from the Ukraine is nowhere. Joining up the dots, I think that if a country is not self-sufficient in basic foods, its people will starve one day soon.

We'll be all right. Spain produces food. Extremadura's biggest earner is agriculture. Quite right but people need to understand the economics. I support the farmers and if they cause an inconvenient disruption to traffic, at least the drivers are not hungry.

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby olive » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:09 pm

Why are tractors so expensive?

They are very complicated pieces of four wheel drive equipment . Manufactured in smaller quantities to say cars so economies of production aren’t there. The development cost is factored in to the end user cost. A rear tyre costs over 1000 euros.

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby olive » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:47 pm

Oranges 12 cents a kilo

Plastic bag. 15 cents each

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Re: Farmers protests

Postby Lavanda » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:10 pm

I guess that's why farmers share tractors.

Says it all really, Olive.


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