Renta 2020

Information and help in the IT field of computers, internet, ISP's, mobile and fixed line telephones plus satellite TV systems.
User avatar
gerryh
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7779
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:17 pm
Location: Cajiz, Malaga

Renta 2020

Postby gerryh » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:41 pm

Tried to access Renta Web using Win 10 Pro, the latest version, and Firefox 87.0, latest version.
When I click on " Acceda con certificado o DNI electrónico" I get an
¨ error 403
Error de identificación. No se detecta certificado digital...."

I do have a valid digital certificate installed which I can use to access ClicSalud+

Does anybody else have this problem?
Cheers
Gerry
Last edited by gerryh on Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Gerry Harris

User avatar
Enrique
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 8776
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:47 am
Location: Mytchett/Alcala La Real

Re: Renta 2021

Postby Enrique » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:03 pm

Hi gerryh,
I'm currently getting same response.......... with Firefox 87.0.....have you tried other Browsers....Edge :?:

Can you post link to site...........I tried one that needed Digital Certificate.
UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.

User avatar
gerryh
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7779
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:17 pm
Location: Cajiz, Malaga

Re: Renta 2020

Postby gerryh » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm

Yes just tried it in Edge and it works OK.
But prefer to use Firefox. Perhaps need an older version of Firefox.

Cheers
Gerry

ETA
Just installed Firefox 75.0 and works OK :think:
Last edited by gerryh on Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Gerry Harris

User avatar
peteroldracer
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7527
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Los Alcázares, Murcia

Re: Renta 2021

Postby peteroldracer » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:37 pm

Maybe you are a year out - this one is Renta 2020?
Last edited by peteroldracer on Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I used to cough to disguise a [email protected] I [email protected] to disguise a cough.

El Cid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 15448
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:42 pm
Location: La Herradura, Costa Tropical, Granada

Re: Renta 2020

Postby El Cid » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:15 pm

No, the current campaign is Renta 2021. This covers the 2020 Renta declaration.

The confusion is that someone changed the thread title on some of the posts. Both are technically correct.

Regarding using a digital certificate, it’s just as easy to create a reference number which does not need either a certificate or [email protected] and will work irrespective of browser or operating system.

Sid

Beachcomber
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 10846
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:11 pm
Location: Guadalhorce Valley

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Beachcomber » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:24 pm

AEAT refers to is as 'Renta 2020'.

Renta2020.jpg

User avatar
gerryh
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7779
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:17 pm
Location: Cajiz, Malaga

Re: Renta 2020

Postby gerryh » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:13 pm

El Cid wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:15 pm No, the current campaign is Renta 2021. This covers the 2020 Renta declaration.

The confusion is that someone changed the thread title on some of the posts. Both are technically correct.

Regarding using a digital certificate, it’s just as easy to create a reference number which does not need either a certificate or [email protected] and will work irrespective of browser or operating system.

Sid
Yes, I know the campaign is called Renta 2021 for accessing the 2020 Renta declaration.
I Changed the subject on my posts to Renta 2020 to keep peteroldracer happy.
I forgot about creating the reference number.
Much easier than creating a [email protected] pin or using a digital certificate with an old version of Firefox.
Cheers
Gerry
Gerry Harris

El Cid
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 15448
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:42 pm
Location: La Herradura, Costa Tropical, Granada

Re: Renta 2020

Postby El Cid » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:17 pm

Beachcomber wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:24 pm AEAT refers to is as 'Renta 2020'
That was the point I made. It is the 2021 Renta campaign which covers the Renta 2020 declaration. I think they deliberately make it confusing.


Sid

User avatar
peteroldracer
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7527
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Los Alcázares, Murcia

Re: Renta 2020

Postby peteroldracer » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:18 pm

It takes very little to confuse me these days...
I used to cough to disguise a [email protected] I [email protected] to disguise a cough.

Paddy Pumpkin
Resident
Posts: 858
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm
Location: Madrid

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:35 am

This is the first year noticed it, but maybe it was there before.

Rental income, deductible expenses...you have to put in the NIF of whoever did the job for you. It only takes valid numbers so you can't throw in random number. Is that new this year?

Luckily there is a box at the bottom where you can input an expense without an NIF number, so foreign rentals you don't need to input the details. But by bit they will know every detail!

Free at Last
Resident
Posts: 1804
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Velez-Malaga

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Free at Last » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:44 pm

El Cid wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:15 pm
Regarding using a digital certificate, it’s just as easy to create a reference number which does not need either a certificate or [email protected] and will work irrespective of browser or operating system.

Sid
My husband and I submitted our declarations a week ago, using the reference numbers. One odd thing, though, was that in my husband's case the system accepted the numero de soporte from his new TIE whereas in my case it said that was an invalid number, and I had to use the numero de soporte from my old green card. We collected our TIEs on the same day, in early April. I wonder why that was?

Paddy Pumpkin
Resident
Posts: 858
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm
Location: Madrid

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Paddy Pumpkin » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:01 pm

I had a similar issue setting-up Clave PIN for friends a few weeks back..TIE number did not work, website said the number was not correct. I called the IT support number and they fixed it in 30 seconds and said try again and it worked.

When I set up Clave PIN myself a few years back it would not accept my Soporte number but it worked no problem for my other half. We did residencia together and our número de soporte are only different by the last digit.

So it seems to be completely random or possibly somebody did not tick a box when inputting details

Free at Last
Resident
Posts: 1804
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Velez-Malaga

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Free at Last » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:20 am

Thanks, if the same thing happens again I will try that - this is about the only thing I ever need the numero de soporte for!

Beachcomber
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 10846
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:11 pm
Location: Guadalhorce Valley

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Beachcomber » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:07 am

In my case the number problem was caused by CNP declaring the number on our residence permits be invalid. This all happened several years ago and AEAT now appear to recognise the problem and has made the matter easier to resolve.

It will be interesting to see is the same problem arises with the change over from green sheet to TIE.

User avatar
peteroldracer
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7527
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Los Alcázares, Murcia

Re: Renta 2020

Postby peteroldracer » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:55 am

I am getting "avax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: eu.eidas.auth.engine.configuration.SamlEngineConfigurationException: Error (not. null) processing request: No private key entry matching serialNumber = 5000f7131f6c45d5e1de414a0ea68f6, and AC issuer = Inform Components OA68f6 and issuer = Components O = FNMT-RCM, C = ES found in configured keyStore - null
Please try again later"
This is for the Murcia Salud site, wanting to check OH's next prescription date. Strangely I can get in to the Agencia Tributaria site using my usual Digital Certificate, so is this just a problem on the health service site?
I used to cough to disguise a [email protected] I [email protected] to disguise a cough.

Beachcomber
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 10846
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:11 pm
Location: Guadalhorce Valley

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Beachcomber » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:29 pm

AEAT ditched Java about three years ago but, as you can see from your error message, the Social Security sites still use it. Even their helpline admits there is a problem with it but can offer no solution.

There may be something in your Java control panel that you need to change or it could just be a problem with the site. I could not get into it either.

User avatar
Wicksey
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 4438
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:21 pm
Location: Axarquia coast

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Wicksey » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:06 pm

No problems with Clicsalud. I thought Java was defunct now. I was advised to uninstall it which I've done.

User avatar
peteroldracer
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7527
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Los Alcázares, Murcia

Re: Renta 2020

Postby peteroldracer » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:19 pm

It seems to be sorted - just got in no probs!
I used to cough to disguise a [email protected] I [email protected] to disguise a cough.

User avatar
peteroldracer
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 7527
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Los Alcázares, Murcia

Re: Renta 2020

Postby peteroldracer » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:01 pm

Please someone get me started: i can get in to the Renta 2020 and it loads my data.
It asks if i want to incorporate pensions from abroad (a question I don’t remember seeing last year?) - all my income is this, one lot paid into UK bank, other into Cajamar.
Do I simply say yes to incorporate it, or say no and enter the total amount later?
With my OH she gets a crown pension (box 525) paid into Cajamar and state paid into UK bank - i have forgotten how to enter these too!
Help much appreciated!
The A.coM FAQ is excellent but does not actually tell you how to input the amounts.
I used to cough to disguise a [email protected] I [email protected] to disguise a cough.

Beachcomber
Andalucia Guru
Posts: 10846
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:11 pm
Location: Guadalhorce Valley

Re: Renta 2020

Postby Beachcomber » Sat May 01, 2021 7:19 am

The option to incorporate pensions etc has been included for several years, however, I have not found this to be a reliable option and prefer to enter it manually as I work my way through the form with all pensions, other than exempt occupational pensions being entered in box 4.

If you have completed this form on previous occasions you will obviously be aware of the facility to swap between 'declarante' and 'conyuge' at any time during its completion.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests