Modelo 210

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Modelo 210

Postby mackle47 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:02 pm

I was about to complete my 2020 tax form 210 on the agenciatributaria but I am getting an error 403 message. Has anyone had this problem, am I too early? Can I download the forms and take to bank? Or do they have to be registered online?

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby Beachcomber » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:17 pm

The Modelo 210 is working correctly for me. At what stage are you getting the error message? Are you using a digital signature?

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby mackle47 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:36 pm

The form seems to be different this year! It has been a couple of year's since I completed myself. Was easier to use a company as not getting being able to get over to pay it with the Covid situation. Can I download the forms, complete then take to the bank when I next go or do they have to be completed online with the agency? I am unsure of this digital signature but do I need it?

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby ashtondav » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:53 pm

No need for digital signatures. Simply fill in the forms, print off and send to your bank instructing them to pay and including your bank details on the modelo.

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby mackle47 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Beachcomber wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:17 pm The Modelo 210 is working correctly for me. At what stage are you getting the error message? Are you using a digital signature?
I clicked on the heading : Model 210. Accruals 2020 and following.This took me to the error 403. Have to let my computer translate to English as I only have basic Spanish!

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby mackle47 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:59 pm

ashtondav wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:53 pm No need for digital signatures. Simply fill in the forms, print off and send to your bank instructing them to pay and including your bank details on the modelo.
This is what I did before but I cannot seem to access the forms on the website.

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby Beachcomber » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:20 pm

Have you read the andalucia.com FAQ on this subject?

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=39065

The web site has changed but the form has not. The old web site can be accessed here:

https://www.agenciatributaria.es/AEAT.i ... icio.shtml

The correct form is here:

https://www2.agenciatributaria.gob.es/w ... /index.zul

If you wish it to be in English click on 'English' in the top right hand corner.

Try filling in the form now and ask again if you have any further query.

You do not need a digital signature but you must complete the form before downloading it. You cannot download it and fill it in by hand.


I think I have identified your problem. You say you click on 'Accruals 2020 and following'. This is incorrect. You need to click on this option:

Preliminary tax return

Form 210. Accrued 2018 and following. Filing (preliminary tax return)
Use this form. It is the same as the link to the form above.
Form 210. Accrued 2013 to 2017. Filing (preliminary tax return)

You got the 403 error message because you were trying to use a version of the form that requires a digital signature. If you had used the link to the form in the FAQ you would not have encountered this problem.

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby mackle47 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:41 pm

That's great Beachcomber I have managed to complete and download docs to take to bank. It was the website that had changed thanks to you mentioning it above and I just followed your link to the form. Many thanks!

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby Ultan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:43 am

Hi, I'm new to the forum.

I came across the discussion regarding the modelo 210 whilst searching information with regards submitting the form.
I have successfully completed the form using a comprehensive guide from the Spanish Citizens advice board found at the link below.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.es/wp-co ... 3-2015.pdf

The most difficult thing I found was actually paying at the bank. My account is with Unicaja and they are only allowing people in with an appointment. We were told we could pay at the Cash Point machine and that it was the only way to pay anyway as they did not process payments in the bank.
The process at the machine was complex, I won't go into detail but if I can be of any help to anyone with regards this please let me know.

My question is whether I need to mail the Tax return to the Hacienda/Tax office having now paid. I am getting conflicting accounts online some saying to pay at the bank and they will "submit" the paperwork to the Taxman etc. Am I to presume that the Return has been filed with the Tax office when I completed it online and therefore I have nothing more to do?

I would greatly appreciate any advice, Thanks.

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Re: Modelo 210

Postby chrissiehope » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:02 pm

Just for future reference, & it may have changed, but I used to pay online with Unicaja - there is - (or was) a section for paying taxes in there. I can't remember what it was actually called, but I do remember it wasn't the obvious one. Hope this helps :-)
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