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UK General election voting

Postby markwilding » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:52 am

Until today I thought I couldn't vote in the UK elections due to the 15 year rule but it seems that there has been a change in the rules and all UK citizens can vote should they want to. I have sent off my request this evening and expect to be allowed to vote by post.

Has anyone else applied successfully even though they have lived out of the UK for over 15 years?

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby fyfin » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:42 am

I can vote but who would I vote for ? I don't trust any career politicians now.
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Re: UK General election voting

Postby costakid » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:29 am

I have voted Tory all my life but how can I vote for Rishi? Starmer is like a wet lettuce and Reform is a wasted vote. What a situation.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby fyfin » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:06 am

costakid wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:29 am I have voted Tory all my life but how can I vote for Rishi? Starmer is like a wet lettuce and Reform is a wasted vote. What a situation.
My thoughts exactly. The Conservatives stopped being conservative a long time ago.
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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Free at Last » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:13 am

I could have re-registered to vote, I knew about the change in the rules months ago, but I haven't bothered. I've been a Labour voter all my life and ordinarily I would be very happy at the thought of Labour winning a large majority, but Starmer has ditched so many policies I supported that I can hardly see any difference between them and the Tories now, they have stopped being socialist.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby fyfin » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:38 am

Free at Last wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:13 am I could have re-registered to vote, I knew about the change in the rules months ago, but I haven't bothered. I've been a Labour voter all my life and ordinarily I would be very happy at the thought of Labour winning a large majority, but Starmer has ditched so many policies I supported that I can hardly see any difference between them and the Tories now, they have stopped being socialist.
Well, we can definitely agree on that, no difference really in either of the two major parties.
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Re: UK General election voting

Postby markwilding » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:57 am

I don't get that argument, which is perpetuated by the right and those on the left of the Labour party, who had their chance and failed miserably. Of course there is a difference, especially as the Conservatives lurch to the right to try to stop voters going towards Reform. However, it's obvious that there will be some crossovers when the parties policies are closer to the centre. However, that's where vast majority of voters are.

Maybe we should look at ourselves and our wanting our cake and eat it attitudes. We want public services but don't want to pay for them through taxes. The UK went down the road of low taxes back in the eighties at the expense of public investment. Blair decided to go on with this to make his party electable but even though many used to call him a soft tory, there were big differences to what we have had since then. The 14 years of idealistic government since 2010 has caused untold damage so now people are paying the price with higher taxes and sticking plaster solutions. Maybe if there had been a heavy programme of investment in areas which have been neglected over the year, there would at least be something to show for it, unlike what there is now. high taxes and a worn out infrastructure.

Personally, I would like Labour to have more progressive policies and have a heavy programme of investment paid for through borrowing, I believe this would kick start growth and attract public investment but many people are wary of high public borrowing so it could affect Labour's chances. But I'm not going to fall into the trap of not voting because they don't go as far as I want. There are still enough fundamental differences for me to vote for them.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Wicksey » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:21 pm

Just out of interest, I thought I'd apply to get my vote in the UK having left 24 years ago. I must say I wouldn't know who to vote for and really, now that we longer have a rental property there, I'm not sure that I'm particularly interested. We've already paid the capital gains tax on the sale of the rental house, and not having anyone left to leave us anything, the inheritance tax situation doesn't affect us either.

I did hear back from my old local government office who dealt with my application, but they said they could not confirm my previous address there so couldn't vote. If I wanted to get someone in authority in the UK to vouch for me then it may be possible. I was at our last address for 10 years, leaving in 2000 and I find it hard to believe that their electoral register and census records do not exist for that period. Anyway, I'm not really that bothered any more as I have few ties to the country now (although obviously I will receive my pension), but all parties seem to be as bad as each other so there's little to choose from. They all promise free beer and monkeynuts in the run-up to the elections, but never keep to them.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby olive » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:37 pm

I cannot see there being much public money for anything in the UK ( or anywhere else in Europe for that matter) when the reality of replacing munitions sent to Ukraine and beefing up NATO ( especially if Trumpy gets back in)

Then you have the Tories in a death spiral. Starmer saying yes to keeping nuclear and Rayner saying no. Reform?

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby chrissiehope » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:08 pm

Not with "I will be an MP if it takes 8 attempts" being their leader !
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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Lavanda » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:45 pm

I have the right to vote. Every year the area I vote in send me a letter asking if I still want to keep my vote. I reply, 'Yes'.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby fincalospinos » Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:25 am

markwilding wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:52 am Until today I thought I couldn't vote in the UK elections due to the 15 year rule but it seems that there has been a change in the rules and all UK citizens can vote should they want to. I have sent off my request this evening and expect to be allowed to vote by post.

Has anyone else applied successfully even though they have lived out of the UK for over 15 years?
Hi Mark, I think that you may be a bit late to register for this coming election. I registered back in May to be put on the voters register, it took around 3 weeks for then to complete this.
I then had to wait until the election was called before I could then apply for a Postal vote, which they acknowledged within 48 hours.
However, I am still waiting for them to arrive in the post. !!
Hardworking resident !!

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Manchesteral » Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:53 pm

In my view ALL politicians are liars, cheats and grifters, don't be suckered into believing that they work for the good of the people, they work first and foremost for themselves, so basically it doesn't really matter who you vote for, the U K is a lost cause, our green and pleasant land is gone forever!

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby markwilding » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:17 pm

fincalospinos wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:25 am

Hi Mark, I think that you may be a bit late to register for this coming election. I registered back in May to be put on the voters register, it took around 3 weeks for then to complete this.
I then had to wait until the election was called before I could then apply for a Postal vote, which they acknowledged within 48 hours.
However, I am still waiting for them to arrive in the post. !!
I fear you are correct. I got a conformation by email and was informed that the papers will be sent registered post. Probably all a total waste of time but at least I will know how it works for the next time.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Pamela1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:54 pm

olive wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:37 pm I cannot see there being much public money for anything in the UK ( or anywhere else in Europe for that matter) when the reality of replacing munitions sent to Ukraine and beefing up NATO ( especially if Trumpy gets back in)

Then you have the Tories in a death spiral. Starmer saying yes to keeping nuclear and Rayner saying no. Reform?
Reform? Fartage promises the world, you can when you have no hope of winning an election... :lol:

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby El Cid » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:27 pm

Well, labour does the same. The difference is that sadly they will win. All the parties are the same - unsustainable promises.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Pamela1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:47 pm

Sid, what is the sadlly they will win? You don't live in the Uk, i do! I no longer recognise this country, people dying waiting for their op, need i say more.. I. hope Labour will change things because the Tories are a disaster and have run this country into the ground.Neither does it get any better in Spain, corruption starts at the bottom with the village mayor.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby El Cid » Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:07 pm

Sad, because Labour's plans won't change anything - probably just make it get worse. You are right about the UK, everything I read and hear says it's a broken state. I haven't set foot there since 2008 and nothing would persuade me to return. Spain, for all its problems is a much better place to be and, from my experience, the health service is way ahead of the UK.

The only party manifesto that shows any chance of changing anything is Reform, but they won't get elected and if they did, I doubt that the figures would add up, but at least they are proposing (like it or not) significant changes. The other parties are just proposing the same old stuff that hasn't worked or is unaffordable.

Sadly, I am more interested in the French election as it will have a greater effect on the EUR/GBP exchange rate which is more relevant to me at the moment!

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby olive » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:57 pm

Vote muppet, you are going to get one anyway.

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Re: UK General election voting

Postby Lavanda » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:36 pm

Interesting reading this. Ever since I can remember I have not understood how 'democracy' can mean that millions of votes are not counted for anything and do not translate into representation. Of course, it's the 'first-past-the-post' system which only benefits the two main parties who have no interest in altering the status quo. Under said system, one party could actually get more votes than the 'winner' yet many fewer seats. The argument against PR — and there are many, many forms of PR — is that smaller parties would get representation — as if that is a bad thing. There's also the 'problem' of coalitions where various parties club together to take power over a larger party, as has happened in Spain.

Of course, we rely on politicians to be people of honour and ones who do their upmost to give the people the representation for which they have voted. It seems to me, that not only is the electoral system in the UK not-fit-for-purpose but the people who are standing for election are also not-fit-for-purpose. As a woman (born that way) I could never vote for Labour because most of the politicians on the left put trans-rights above the rights and safety of women. Labour may well have plans to make the UK a better place but I doubt that includes a better place for actual women. As I am not insane, I will not be voting for the Conservatives, either.


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