Convenio especial de prestación de asistencia sanitaria

[fyfin]

Some of you may be aware that there is a system to join the Spanish National Healthcare system by paying into it which was ratified by Royal Decree 1192/2012. What I didn't realise is that all regions have adopted this yet and Andalucia is one that hasn't.

I had been advised to just go and apply and I tried to do this at Huercal Overa in Almeria but basically they knew nothing about it and assumed I wanted some sort of social assistance and wanted me to complete a form to obtain a social security number when this should not be a requirement.

This website explains it very well, how much it costs and includes a simple application form (province of Aragon). http://tinyurl.com/oqwsrsn

I decided to write to the Presidenta of Junat de Andalucia and actually got a reply which I think says that they are working on it and hopefully it will be available soon. If anyone can translate it better please let me know.

I am a member of Citizens Advice Spain and I will post this there as well as I had already mentioned I was trying to do it. Here is the reply -

En respuesta a su mensaje enviado a través del buzón de sugerencias de la página web del Servicio Andaluz de Salud, le informamos que:

Actualmente se está a la espera del informe jurídico sobre el modelo de convenio a firmar. Próximamente estará disponible, junto con el procediminto para su tramitación, en la página web del Servicio Andaluz de Salud http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/servicio ... efault.asp

Un cordial saludo,

Si desea responder a este correo, pulsar aquí

Servicio Andaluz de Salud
Avda. Constitución 18
41071 Sevilla
Tel. 955 01 8000
Fax. 955 01 8025

[Free at Last]

I had been advised to just go and apply and I tried to do this at Huercal Overa in Almeria but basically they knew nothing about it and assumed I wanted some sort of social assistance and wanted me to complete a form to obtain a social security number when this should not be a requirement.

When it is introduced in Andalucia, it might well be necessary to obtain a Spanish social security number before you can access it. Certainly if you want to apply currently under the "sin recursos" rules (applicable to those who were resident prior to the rules being changed in 2012), you have to get a social security number first, even if you're not going to be working and paying contributions.

[fyfin]

Now that is interesting because we were able to obtain health benefits (albeit temporary) using our S1 forms and were issued with a number but not a social security number. Of course we have an NIE and are now registered for tax (first tax return this year).
Looking at the other regions it seems they don't require anything other than evidence that you are on the padron, have been officially resident more than a year - here is the actual application form used by one region and I have looked at some others as well who don't seem to ask for it http://tinyurl.com/qyxzvjt

Maybe I'll just apply for one anyway or wait until I hear as it may be different if you are actually paying for it instead of receiving free treatment. Our friends who are pensioners didn't have to have one as far as I know when they took their S1s to the INSS office and they have received their tarjetas sanitarias.

[Free at Last]

Now that is interesting because we were able to obtain health benefits (albeit temporary) using our S1 forms and were issued with a number but not a social security number. Of course we have an NIE and are now registered for tax (first tax return this year).
Looking at the other regions it seems they don't require anything other than evidence that you are on the padron, have been officially resident more than a year - here is the actual application form used by one region and I have looked at some others as well who don't seem to ask for it http://tinyurl.com/qyxzvjt

Maybe I'll just apply for one anyway or wait until I hear as it may be different if you are actually paying for it instead of receiving free treatment. Our friends who are pensioners didn't have to have one as far as I know when they took their S1s to the INSS office and they have received their tarjetas sanitarias.

No, you don't need an SS number if registering with an S1 form (I don't know why, presumably because the UK Government is paying>).

However, another member (Campo Steve, hope he won't mind me quoting him) described his experience in going down the "sin recursos" route here

http://www.andalucia.com/forums/viewtop ... 53#p303453

and I have heard the same from other sources.

[fyfin]

I can see that but then again our case will be different in that it is not "sin recursos" i.e we do not fall into the prior to Apr 2012 residents.

We will have to pay when they get it up and running so I suspect we will not need an SS number but as I said, who knows, it's all new to the Junta so they can devise whatever type of form or condition they wish. We will just have to make sure we comply.

I just hope they get it up and running soon as we feel a little nervous having no cover here or in UK despite paying NI in UK for 75 years between us, and never claiming a penny in benefits apart from child benefit.

[Icaru]

Here is the answer:

http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/servicio ... %20kb).pdf

And this one is very clearly laid out (both in Spanish)

https://www.saludinforma.es/portalsi/we ... -sanitaria

[fyfin]

The top link doesn't work, maybe you need to make it into a tinyurl .

I eventually got into the system by the convenio especial route but it wasn't easy to find a form anywhere on the system for Andalucia. In fact the form only appeared for one day and I managed to download it before it disappeared for good.