police corruption?? or a "perk" of the job ??
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police corruption?? or a "perk" of the job ??
so i was in a friends place the other night. her guardia civil boyfriend turns up, (in uniform but his own car)... sits down, pulls out an evidence bag and procedes to roll a joint.
looking at him in surprise he then offers it to me and says "if you dont want to smoke i've got coke in the car..."
the question is, is this a perk, or corruption?? i know what i would do...
looking at him in surprise he then offers it to me and says "if you dont want to smoke i've got coke in the car..."
the question is, is this a perk, or corruption?? i know what i would do...
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Okay, they can't all be tarred with the same brush, however my ex next door neighbour in the UK was a copper, very nice bloke as a neighbour - otherwise, very prone to speeding, pulling a fast one and generally getting away with whatever he could and openly doing so!
About 4 years ago, I witnessed a crime and following numerous police interviews, had to attend a 'video ID parade'. This policeman who had been 'assigned' to me, picked me up, drove me to where the Identification was to take place and on the way made 'casual' general conversation - (the journey lasted for about 45 mins) - I felt a bit uncomfortable as the conversation seemed to be hint dropping about the criminal's lifestyle/background etc and although I was slightly nervous about any 'reprisals' I was confident that I could pick out the suspect as I am pretty good at remembering faces. Anyway, just as we pulled up outside the police station, having told me that I wouldn't be given any information about the suspect's identity the policeman pulled out this thick case file and written in marker pen was the guy's name!!! Didn't mean anything to me anyway, but it didn't feel right!
Upshot was, that all the rule bending by the policeman had been unnecessary - the guy's face 'jumped' out at me when doing the video ID.
And, having also been told, that I wouldn't be told whether I had correctly picked out the suspect - on the way home, the policeman said something along the lines of, "you did very well, it was a very worthwhile morning's work" !!!!!!
So, I guess some of the good guys (and maybe the women??) aren't always as good as they ought to be.
Drugs are a big no-no as far as I'm concerned. I think that if I had a copper offer me coke, I would have to report it - well in the UK anyway.
About 4 years ago, I witnessed a crime and following numerous police interviews, had to attend a 'video ID parade'. This policeman who had been 'assigned' to me, picked me up, drove me to where the Identification was to take place and on the way made 'casual' general conversation - (the journey lasted for about 45 mins) - I felt a bit uncomfortable as the conversation seemed to be hint dropping about the criminal's lifestyle/background etc and although I was slightly nervous about any 'reprisals' I was confident that I could pick out the suspect as I am pretty good at remembering faces. Anyway, just as we pulled up outside the police station, having told me that I wouldn't be given any information about the suspect's identity the policeman pulled out this thick case file and written in marker pen was the guy's name!!! Didn't mean anything to me anyway, but it didn't feel right!
Upshot was, that all the rule bending by the policeman had been unnecessary - the guy's face 'jumped' out at me when doing the video ID.
And, having also been told, that I wouldn't be told whether I had correctly picked out the suspect - on the way home, the policeman said something along the lines of, "you did very well, it was a very worthwhile morning's work" !!!!!!
So, I guess some of the good guys (and maybe the women??) aren't always as good as they ought to be.
Drugs are a big no-no as far as I'm concerned. I think that if I had a copper offer me coke, I would have to report it - well in the UK anyway.
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Re: police corruption?? or a "perk" of the job ??
Presumably you took the spliff off him? Or were you worried about entrapment?
This was happening 25 years ago in the area I lived in Spain. The Guardia involved was acknowledged as the best source of anything anyone wanted. He drove the best car in the Province - still does for all I know! I found it very difficult to turn a blind eye but all my Spanish friends just gave that expressive shrug so I too ignored it.
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Re: police corruption?? or a "perk" of the job ??
i dont smoke, so no.Faire d'Income wrote:Presumably you took the spliff off him? Or were you worried about entrapment?
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Re: police corruption?? or a "perk" of the job ??
spanish_lad wrote:i've got coke in the car..."
We used to have an open fire when I was a lad Sometimes dad would come bach home with a couple of sacks of coke, you can get a really nice glow with it and roast your chestnuts to perfection.
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So whats the problem? Am I missing something?
Im not pro drugs nor do I take them but police arent vickars they are just normal working people. Just because they take drugs doesnt mean they are corrupt and a bit of corruption is ok, gets things done. Besides corruption is always there in any country and I prefer it on the small scale (like it used to be here) than on the big scale (like it is in UK)
We are not talking about bribing a policeman to forget about a serious crash where a drunken driver has killed someone, I dont think that could ever happen. Were talking about speeding tickets, mobile phone, parking, drink driving, a little bribe to ignore the coke in the trunk and so on.
Im not pro drugs nor do I take them but police arent vickars they are just normal working people. Just because they take drugs doesnt mean they are corrupt and a bit of corruption is ok, gets things done. Besides corruption is always there in any country and I prefer it on the small scale (like it used to be here) than on the big scale (like it is in UK)
We are not talking about bribing a policeman to forget about a serious crash where a drunken driver has killed someone, I dont think that could ever happen. Were talking about speeding tickets, mobile phone, parking, drink driving, a little bribe to ignore the coke in the trunk and so on.
The uk police are just as bad, apparently though, Prison officers are much worse, A solicitor friend told me that without exception evert prison officer in the UK is bent, I suppose you only have to look at the amount of drugs and alcohol freely available in Prison to believe it, I mean how else do they get there?
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And what about Customs Men, with all the liquids that are being confiscated, where are all they going, a lady who i work with bought a large bottle of very expensive designer skin cream, ( she had just done an around the world trip) and got it taken off her at Customs.
I know she was silly, what with all the adverts advising of the do's and don'ts, but with traveling for a long time she just completely forgot the rules.
Where do's it all go? I can't imagine someone pouring that and all the confiscated bottles of spirits down the sink.
I know she was silly, what with all the adverts advising of the do's and don'ts, but with traveling for a long time she just completely forgot the rules.
Where do's it all go? I can't imagine someone pouring that and all the confiscated bottles of spirits down the sink.
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My friend works for the Crown prosecution service as an in house counsellor, and of course it's over the top to say that every officer is bent, but it is rife, he prepared the briefs for 16 prosecution cases against serving prison officers, last year alone, they are mostly tried in camera as it's obviously very embarrasing for the government, but I do believe it's a huge problem, you have only to look at the number of reports regarding drugs and alcohol in prison to know that there has to be some substance [sic] behind it, After all how DO the drugs and alcohol get there?
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