buying a 5 years old house with no first occupation licence
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buying a 5 years old house with no first occupation licence
would it be a wise move? there is 3-phase power contracted to the house, as well as a phone line. the present owner built it and has lived there for 5 years, and apparently has had no problems...
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well it had a building licence, but apparently no first occupation...
hmm, €145,000 for a 5 year old campo property on 2000m2 with wooden floors throughout? looks like a good deal to me a bit more than anyone can afford to loose tho...
silver, what do you mean ask at the town hall ? for what? for them to grant a licence?
pwwm, what do you mean? cant sell without the licence? is that right.. hmm, bargining chip anyone ??
cassandra, even if they do find that out, isn't there a rule that after 4 years it can be registered and nothing can happen?
the house is on the castral and has a plot number, but this apparently crosses the boundries of a couple of other plots??
hmm, €145,000 for a 5 year old campo property on 2000m2 with wooden floors throughout? looks like a good deal to me a bit more than anyone can afford to loose tho...
silver, what do you mean ask at the town hall ? for what? for them to grant a licence?
pwwm, what do you mean? cant sell without the licence? is that right.. hmm, bargining chip anyone ??
cassandra, even if they do find that out, isn't there a rule that after 4 years it can be registered and nothing can happen?
the house is on the castral and has a plot number, but this apparently crosses the boundries of a couple of other plots??
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Is this a rural property?
Presumably it doesn't have an obra nueva either so the answer would be no. If it doesn't have a certificate of first occupation there must be a reason especially after five years.
Have you checked the escritura, does it show a house (as opposed to a shed) having been been built on the land?
I should get someone to check this out properly unless you want to end up with some nasty surprises.
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You posted your last comments just before I posted mine.
OK so it has a building licence but is it for a house? Does it have an escritura de obra nueva. The four year certificate of antiquity loophole has been well and truly closed and is no longer an option.
Is it registered both in the property registry and in Catastro?
Presumably it doesn't have an obra nueva either so the answer would be no. If it doesn't have a certificate of first occupation there must be a reason especially after five years.
Have you checked the escritura, does it show a house (as opposed to a shed) having been been built on the land?
I should get someone to check this out properly unless you want to end up with some nasty surprises.
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You posted your last comments just before I posted mine.
OK so it has a building licence but is it for a house? Does it have an escritura de obra nueva. The four year certificate of antiquity loophole has been well and truly closed and is no longer an option.
Is it registered both in the property registry and in Catastro?
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forget it..you cant build a house on rural land that size..now or before..so could be on the danger list...maybe thats why he is selling so cheap.5 year old campo property on 2000m2
have you seen this??? ask yourself...why would he sell cheap if he could sell for more with the first occupation...it had a building licence
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Surely after all this time an Occupation licence would not be needed, if the electricity is connected?
Is it registered on the land? If not is there an architects final certificate which could be used to register it?
Is it registered on the land? If not is there an architects final certificate which could be used to register it?
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The houses I referred to are now within the town boundary but weren't at the time of building. They have been regularised (is that a word?) but with very heavy fines for flouting the building regs in the 1st place. In one case the house was sold a couple of years ago and the new owners have been landed with the fine even though it wasn't their fault
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I think you will find that is wasn't classed as a fine but as a "Legalisation Tax".Cassandra wrote: In one case the house was sold a couple of years ago and the new owners have been landed with the fine even though it wasn't their fault
As the current owners they will gain the benefit from that when they come to resell. If it was an illegal house when they bought it I am sure that was reflected in the price they paid.
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and since this one is now within town boundaries, complete with street lights, proper pavements and all there was no reason to suspect anything. I never heard the final outcome but there was talk of the original owners sharing the cost of the fine or 'legislation tax' as they had also been ignorant of any irregularities when they sold the house.
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My understanding is that you cannot carry out an escritura de declaración de obra nueva without a certificate of first occupation even if you have a building licence.
It obviously follows that if you cannot do the obra nueva you cannot register it and even if it gets past the notary the property registrar will not allow it to be registered.
I also understand that this has always been the case but that the requirement has not been rigorously enforced until now.
It obviously follows that if you cannot do the obra nueva you cannot register it and even if it gets past the notary the property registrar will not allow it to be registered.
I also understand that this has always been the case but that the requirement has not been rigorously enforced until now.
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